Man that sucks if it's the case. I don't want heavy metal collecting to turn into punk collecting, where all big collectors wear suits and have highly paid jobs, totally contrary to what the scene was originally all about.
Khnud wrote: ↑Tue Jul 09, 2019 3:57 pmBargain hunting days are not completely over. Last month I bought a rockabilly single from a guy who lives in the next closest town from here. Listed it on Discogs and it sold after only 20 minutes, for over 6 times what I payed, to a Japanese dealer with 1500+ feedback. I'm pretty sure he's going to make a decent profit in turn, flipping it to some other guy from Japan.
No need to defend that enterprise of yours, I'm sure you understand the quote was just an illustration. Your 20 euros is not the end price though, is it? You hinted as much. By "end price" I mean the price paid by the dude who intends to put the record in his or her collection. The more people who take a cut along the way, the higher the end price. It works the same way for 30 euro records and 300 euro records.Khnud wrote: ↑Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:36 amWow, you must have browsed through a lot of threads on this forum just to find that message.
Yeah, buying a record for 30 SEK (about €3) and selling it for 200 (about €20) is surely killing the collecting scene. Especially since the average Discogs price for this item was 220 SEK (€22) to begin with, so I was actually deflating the price on it...
But yeah, of course you are correct. People like money. What I absolutely hate is people who insist on trying to sell items for <maximum price they've ever sold for multiplied with 50 per cent>. That will kill the collecting scene. Compare with the punk scene, where almost every diy release from the late 70's early 80's is now a $$$ or even $$$$ item, not many will be able to keep up with those prices (myself included, regardless of how many cheap rockabilly 45s I find and sell for coffee money).
According to my observations, the biggest general price surge has been in the "cult classics" or "semi classics". Stuff that's regarded classic or influential but didn't sell outrageously huge amounts. Stuff like Angel Witch, Satan, Mercyful Fate, Blitzkrieg, Diamond Head and the like. Records that nearly all half-serious metal collectors will want but don't exist in the amounts of Saxon or Motörhead records.DaN wrote: ↑Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:40 amInteresting... Are all good 80's HM vinyl getting more expensive though?
Originals of all the classic bands - Yes
Kült-rarities (Militia, Wyzard, various nwobhm 7" etc) - Yes
...but inbetween is where we find the majority of vinyl Steel and not all of it is mediocre. If you don't have a problem with coughing up €20-€50 for a great underrated olde Metal release there's still a lot of goodies up for grabs.
archive.org is down while I'm writing this, but if you have the time and can find it, look up the old Metal Treasures-site and check the suggested prices on some of that stuff - almost everything was rated $100+ but today you'll actually get it cheaper...
Yeah, the ongoing genre saturation is an interesting topic in itself, but more suitable in a separate thread methinks.fengisriprider wrote: ↑Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:49 amThere are annoying aspects to it, but I am more worried about monetization by bands and lables reducing the artistic integrity of new heavy metal rock than I am the record hunting aspect of things. To much focus on sale of image and performance not enough on actual music composition and concepts, to much focus on packaging and presentation/advertising, not enough focus on writing and developing unique messages or atmosphere. That's more troubling to me than high record prices. I will gladly pay for sheer brilliance!
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