Recent HEAVY ARTILLERY RECORDS signees MIDNIGHT CHASER arrive as the third and latest entry in the label’s WAX MANIAX DEMO SERIES. The San Francisco-based traditional hard rock/ heavy metal quartet will make their debut on December 14th with the release of their self-titled five track EP which will be sold exclusively through http://store.heavyartillery.us
The CD includes four original studio tracks plus a cover of “Turn Your Head Around” by NOWBHM legends TANK. The vinyl version also includes a cover of the ZZ TOP classic “Heard it on the X” as an exclusive bonus sixth track. Preview three tracks from Midnight Chaser at http://heavyartillery.bandcamp.com/albu ... ght-chaser
The eponymous Midnight Chaser EP will be strictly limited to 200 hand numbered mini LPs and 200 CDs. This limited edition release serves as a primer for MIDNIGHT CHASER’s full length album, Who Dares Wins, which will hit store shelves worldwide on February 8th 2011. Fans of hard rock and heavy metal such as early Motorhead, Fastway, Judas Priest and Tank take note!
Also, I'm sure that Iordan will have something to say about the pressings being limited to only 200 copies as apparently it's not possible to do a press run that small anymore.
bigfootkit wrote:"Your Steel Is Not True"
stormspell wrote:"I hate all my releases. I only listen to Korn and Limp Bizkit, don't you know..."
The phrase "Who Dares Wins" is an old one, most often associated with military actions. Today it's the motto of multiple armed forces units around the world and finds its origins arguably in ancient Greece. And I'm pretty sure Bolt Thrower popularized the phrase amongst metalheads much more than these two certainly less important bands. Suggesting that any band could possibly rip off such a universal phrase is like saying you can't sing Happy Birthday.
I can understand bands sounding the same because sub-genres have a specific sound to them but ripping off album titles/band names is just total lack of creativity in my opinion. Stating that it's a widely used term as a scapegoat is really pointless... The fact is that that as an ALBUM TITLE it has already been used.
Regarding Bolt Thrower, Not Fragile still pre-dates them by a long shot.
bigfootkit wrote:"Your Steel Is Not True"
stormspell wrote:"I hate all my releases. I only listen to Korn and Limp Bizkit, don't you know..."
This album title rip-off discussion is not going to go anywhere, Dödens Grav is right in this case, 'Who Dares Wins'... when I hear that the first thing that comes to mind is CERTAINLY not a metal album title. It's such a phrase that you really can't contend any band has the right to it as they already 'used' it.
I like the look of the Midnight Chaser logo a lot, but the music didn't do anything for me.
Are you the tyrant, who cast them to the sea?
One day you'll be among the dead.
Avenger wrote:I can understand bands sounding the same because sub-genres have a specific sound to them but ripping off album titles/band names is just total lack of creativity in my opinion. Stating that it's a widely used term as a scapegoat is really pointless... The fact is that that as an ALBUM TITLE it has already been used.
Regarding Bolt Thrower, Not Fragile still pre-dates them by a long shot.
I honestly doubt that the band in question has even heard of Not Fragile. I bet they've heard of Bolt Thrower though. Bolt Thrower is a much more important and significant band than Not Fragile. Who started playing music sooner is irrelevant. Then again so is this Midnight Chaser band more likely than not. But the fact that they used a well-known military phrase for the name of the album when unbeknownst to them an insignificant German metal band used the same title over two decades before them isn't why.
Avenger wrote:I can understand bands sounding the same because sub-genres have a specific sound to them but ripping off album titles/band names is just total lack of creativity in my opinion. Stating that it's a widely used term as a scapegoat is really pointless... The fact is that that as an ALBUM TITLE it has already been used.
Regarding Bolt Thrower, Not Fragile still pre-dates them by a long shot.
I honestly doubt that the band in question has even heard of Not Fragile. I bet they've heard of Bolt Thrower though. Bolt Thrower is a much more important and significant band than Not Fragile. Who started playing music sooner is irrelevant. Then again so is this Midnight Chaser band more likely than not. But the fact that they used a well-known military phrase for the name of the album when unbeknownst to them an insignificant German metal band used the same title over two decades before them isn't why.
I think that you just disagree with me for the sake of disagreeing and look you brought your fan boy bane with you again... That aside, who gives a shit how "significant" a band is based on popularity. That same mentality can be argued by fans of modern day pop stars, does that make the band more significant? No. And while we are at it, since this whole "significant" argument seems to be based solely on opinion, I could really care less about Bolt Thrower. The argument that the title also happens to be a well known military phrase could very well be true and that taken into consideration, the band should have guessed that the album title had already been used. Oh, but wait, they lack any creativity... Which by the way, since you missed it the first time, happens to be the point I’m getting across.
Now, I expect the next retort to be that of pity name-calling followed by a lack of justification on why it's apparently valid.
bigfootkit wrote:"Your Steel Is Not True"
stormspell wrote:"I hate all my releases. I only listen to Korn and Limp Bizkit, don't you know..."
I apologize if you feel as though I single you out or that any of my responses to you in any thread are a deliberate result of who you are, but the actual fact of the matter is that I simply respond to things that I either agree or disagree with, or believe is accurate or inaccurate and would like to expound upon or correct. In this case it was your criticism of a band for a reason that I found to be fairly banal and misguided. I brought up Bolt Thrower merely because they are a more popular and well known (and more important for their contributions to the evolution of their genre) than Not Fragile and are therefore the more likely source of the alleged 'pilfering' of the album title that you suggested. Although obviously my position is that it's equally, if not more likely that the title was borrowed from a source external to anything related to metal.
I fail to understand, however, your need to have an original album title name. Perhaps the motto "Who Dares Wins" exemplifies the theme of the album. If that is the case, then why bother with another title? The fact that another band may have also used the same title in a case like this doesn't seem to be very significant. I mean it's not like they named the album something that is a specific reference to a certain band like "In the Court of the Crimson King".
Dodens Grav wrote:I apologize if you feel as though I single you out or that any of my responses to you in any thread are a deliberate result of who you are, but the actual fact of the matter is that I simply respond to things that I either agree or disagree with, or believe is accurate or inaccurate and would like to expound upon or correct. In this case it was your criticism of a band for a reason that I found to be fairly banal and misguided. I brought up Bolt Thrower merely because they are a more popular and well known (and more important for their contributions to the evolution of their genre) than Not Fragile and are therefore the more likely source of the alleged 'pilfering' of the album title that you suggested. Although obviously my position is that it's equally, if not more likely that the title was borrowed from a source external to anything related to metal.
I fail to understand, however, your need to have an original album title name. Perhaps the motto "Who Dares Wins" exemplifies the theme of the album. If that is the case, then why bother with another title? The fact that another band may have also used the same title in a case like this doesn't seem to be very significant. I mean it's not like they named the album something that is a specific reference to a certain band like "In the Court of the Crimson King".
The album title really doesn't matter. it was simply just a reference point for me to pick apart how the band doesn't seem to (from a first glance standpoint) have any ideas of they're own. That said, I'm going to find it even harder spending the time to give this album a shot when it already looks like it's nothing special from the album title alone.
bigfootkit wrote:"Your Steel Is Not True"
stormspell wrote:"I hate all my releases. I only listen to Korn and Limp Bizkit, don't you know..."
In fairness, as has been already noted, the band in question doesn't really offer up much worth talking about, as seems to be the general consensus thus far.
