Unholy German Trinity

Fire Down Under · Post by **Fire Down Under** » Fri Jul 09, 2010 10:04 pm

DESTRUCTION, their first three vinyls are killer as hell!!

Marken · Post by **Marken** » Sat Jul 10, 2010 8:28 am

Not a big fan of any of these bands, but Kreator have three pretty good albums, so they'll get my vote.
Destruction is average and Sodom have always been crap.

The best German thrash-band is by far Paradox.

Lama · Post by **Lama** » Sat Jul 10, 2010 2:54 pm

Marken wrote:Not a big fan of any of these bands, but Kreator have three pretty good albums, so they'll get my vote.
Destruction is average and Sodom have always been crap.

The best German thrash-band is by far Paradox.

Marken · Post by **Marken** » Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:14 pm

Lama wrote:
Marken wrote:Not a big fan of any of these bands, but Kreator have three pretty good albums, so they'll get my vote.
Destruction is average and Sodom have always been crap.

The best German thrash-band is by far Paradox.

Ok, Better Off Dead has a couple of decent tunes, if that's what made your eyes wide open, but that's about it. Never like them, and the last album was horrible.

Or don't you like Paradox? Everybody must like Paradox

great_knuthulhu · Post by **great_knuthulhu** » Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:19 pm

Marken wrote:
Lama wrote:
Marken wrote:Not a big fan of any of these bands, but Kreator have three pretty good albums, so they'll get my vote.
Destruction is average and Sodom have always been crap.

The best German thrash-band is by far Paradox.

Ok, Better Off Dead has a couple of decent tunes, if that's what made your eyes wide open, but that's about it. Never like them, and the last album was horrible.

Or don't you like Paradox? Everybody must like Paradox

You should be used to that kind of reaction by now Marken. When it comes to taste, "there's no one like you".

Kreator were crap in Oslo last year though.

Lama · Post by **Lama** » Sat Jul 10, 2010 4:06 pm

Considering Kreator I can follow you, Marken. I like everything up to and including "Renewal" (underrated album!). "Sentence Of Death" and the following two full lengths of Destruction are great, but maybe too raw and underproduced for you. However, stating that Sodom were always 'crap' is a criminal act!! "In The Sign..." and "Obsessed..." may be a matter of taste, but you can't ignore the greatness of "Expurse...", "Persecution Mania", "Agent Orange" and "Tapping The Vein"! That "Better Off Dead" just has a few good songs is true though. Still have to check out some later stuff like "Code Red" and "M-16".

Kreator have been crap live for 15 years. I remember seeing them in 1998 doing a slow version of "Extreme Aggressions"... A couple of weeks ago Tommy Vetterli (ex-Coroner) said in an interview that Mille doesn't listen to metal anymore. He likes pop music. He considers Kreator his day job, just to make some money...

Marken · Post by **Marken** » Sat Jul 10, 2010 4:07 pm

great_knuthulhu wrote:
Marken wrote:
Lama wrote:

Ok, Better Off Dead has a couple of decent tunes, if that's what made your eyes wide open, but that's about it. Never like them, and the last album was horrible.

Or don't you like Paradox? Everybody must like Paradox
You should be used to that kind of reaction by now Marken. When it comes to taste, "there's no one like you".

Well, I guess so, but I find it just as strange everytime I see that people don't find Paradox being one of the best bands ever, In Search Of Sanity by far the best Onslaught-release and stuff like that.
But I'm getting used to it.

Lama · Post by **Lama** » Sat Jul 10, 2010 6:57 pm

Haha, you make me think of my once chief director Nico (HellSpawn magazine). He always liked the 'wrong' albums most ; "Cold Lake", "Endorama", "Strange And Beautiful", "Virtual XI", "Victims Of This Fallen World" (Kataklysm), all later Mortification-albums... It was impossible to get a grip on this guy

Marken · Post by **Marken** » Sat Jul 10, 2010 7:18 pm

Lama wrote:Haha, you make me think of my once chief director Nico (HellSpawn magazine). He always liked the 'wrong' albums most ; "Cold Lake", "Endorama", "Strange And Beautiful", "Virtual XI", "Victims Of This Fallen World" (Kataklysm), all later Mortification-albums... It was impossible to get a grip on this guy

Hehe, I don't like any of those you mention, although I haven't heard the Mortification-albums except for some tracks on their latest CD.
But I usually like my thrash with a dose of melody, so I guess that's why I think stuff like Paradox and In Search Of Sanity (Onslaught) are some of the best in the field.
And in case you didn't know, Overkill "Ironbound" might be the best thrash-album of all time

And in general, american thrash-bands destroys the germans.

Lama · Post by **Lama** » Sat Jul 10, 2010 7:56 pm

Marken wrote:
Lama wrote:Haha, you make me think of my once chief director Nico (HellSpawn magazine). He always liked the 'wrong' albums most ; "Cold Lake", "Endorama", "Strange And Beautiful", "Virtual XI", "Victims Of This Fallen World" (Kataklysm), all later Mortification-albums... It was impossible to get a grip on this guy
Hehe, I don't like any of those you mention, although I haven't heard the Mortification-albums except for some tracks on their latest CD.
But I usually like my thrash with a dose of melody, so I guess that's why I think stuff like Paradox and In Search Of Sanity (Onslaught) are some of the best in the field.
And in case you didn't know, Overkill "Ironbound" might be the best thrash-album of all time

And in general, american thrash-bands destroys the germans.

I like "Ironbound" too. And some American bands do slay certain German bands, it depends which ones you are talking about. But that's a different discussion. Maybe you should start a topic about that...

Anyway, I voted Sodom, because out of the three, I have most respect for them.

The Sentinel · Post by **The Sentinel** » Sat Jul 10, 2010 10:19 pm

Lama wrote: A couple of weeks ago Tommy Vetterli (ex-Coroner) said in an interview that Mille doesn't listen to metal anymore. He likes pop music. He considers Kreator his day job, just to make some money...

That was already happening after Pleasure to Kill

rictusgrin666 · Post by **rictusgrin666** » Sun Jul 11, 2010 10:25 am

Close call but Kreator on the strength of Pleasure To Kill, esp Ripping Corpse.

And since the thread started to slide in this direction I will say that I think Ironbound is probably the best album released by any of the big ol' thrashers from the 80s.

Witchkiller · Post by **Witchkiller** » Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:09 pm

Marken wrote:And in general, american thrash-bands destroys the germans.

i agree ,they're better in basketball..............................

edit: Ironbound best thrash release of all time? I guess drum programming and triggers are essential for "perfection" nowadays.................

Marken · Post by **Marken** » Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:53 pm

Witchkiller wrote: edit: Ironbound best thrash release of all time? I guess drum programming and triggers are essential for "perfection" nowadays.................

I love the drumsound and the drumming of Ron Lipnicki, but it's the strength of the songs that does it for me. Weird.
And yes, I like both "modern" productions and "old school" productions. That's even weirder.

rictusgrin666 · Post by **rictusgrin666** » Sun Jul 11, 2010 10:51 pm

rictusgrin666 wrote:Close call but Kreator on the strength of Pleasure To Kill, esp Ripping Corpse.

And since the thread started to slide in this direction I will say that I think Ironbound is probably the best album released by any of the big ol' thrashers from the 80s.

Hmm I don't mean "of all time" though, I should say best album released in the last 5 years. Sodom's last couple are up there too.

Unholy German Trinity

What's your fave between those three ?