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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:51 pm
by Cochino
I insist. Moshkinstein is a very good thrash album.

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 1:29 pm
by anthares
Moshkinstein is not that bad. "H" stands for "Horrible vocalist"?

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:55 am
by omen of hate
Too lazy to read the first 5 pages, so here's my top-5 :

01 - LIVING DEATH - Vengeance of Hell
02 - THE MENTORS - You Axed for it
03 - BLACK SPHEPHERD - Immortal Aggression (for some strange reasons, I love to listen to that LP from time to time)
04 - DEATH POWER - The Boogeyman
05 - VIRUS - Pray for War

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:11 pm
by Avenger
I personally love Vectom, but I've seen a lot of shit-flinging when it comes to that band in recent years...

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 1:42 pm
by great_knuthulhu
omen of hate wrote:Too lazy to read the first 5 pages, so here's my top-5 :

01 - LIVING DEATH - Vengeance of Hell
02 - THE MENTORS - You Axed for it
03 - BLACK SPHEPHERD - Immortal Aggression (for some strange reasons, I love to listen to that LP from time to time)
04 - DEATH POWER - The Boogeyman
05 - VIRUS - Pray for War
Living Death were good fun. I like that album quite a bit. Mentors and Virus I tend to agree more about. Haven't heard the other two, maybe that makes me a lucky man?
Avenger wrote:I personally love Vectom, but I've seen a lot of shit-flinging when it comes to that band in recent years
I think Vectom are relatively entertaining, but I probably won't put them on too often in the next few years. "Bordering on boring" would be my verdict.

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:27 pm
by Andreas
I really like the Virus - Pray for War album. As it states on the back Thermonuclear Metal!!!!!!!!!!!!

I agree with Black Shepherd, being a mediocre album.

The thrash albums I really dislike are the Cyclone albums. Boring as hell, imo. Demo was nice though.

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:52 pm
by Brainbiter
Whoa. I'm following this tread and I'm keeping notes!

However, it seems that whenever we discuss "the worst", "overated" gets confused with "bad". Bay Area thrash was an overated scene, I agree, but Legacy or, even more, Bonded by Blood are SOLID. It also seems that different criteria apply to the german scene, cause I can't possibly consider, lets say, the first Sodom albums as good. I know they are "brvtal" but that doesn't nessesarily make them good.

My vote goes to post-Spreading the Disease Anthrax albums. I really can't stand the obvious "why can't we all live in peace" lyrics. They had no spine and they influenced a lot of other US bands that wanted to sound "more open-minded", whatever that meant. If I would ever get a time-machine for Christmass, I would go back in time and let the soviet nuclear warheads fly before the rap-metal thing begun to sound like a good idea.

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:08 pm
by Ernest Thesiger
Brainbiter wrote:I really can't stand the obvious "why can't we all live in peace" lyrics.
It just bothers me that they were written by the same person who wrote "What's that dot on your forehead, do you use it to see?" for SOD.

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:36 pm
by sovdat
Ernest Thesiger wrote:
Brainbiter wrote:I really can't stand the obvious "why can't we all live in peace" lyrics.
It just bothers me that they were written by the same person who wrote "What's that dot on your forehead, do you use it to see?" for SOD.
That was written in a sarcastic note. Just like the song Kill Yourself, which is actually the anti-suicide song ...

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:17 pm
by Ernest Thesiger
sovdat wrote:
Ernest Thesiger wrote:
Brainbiter wrote:I really can't stand the obvious "why can't we all live in peace" lyrics.
It just bothers me that they were written by the same person who wrote "What's that dot on your forehead, do you use it to see?" for SOD.
That was written in a sarcastic note.
You'll believe anything.

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 6:40 pm
by sovdat
Ernest Thesiger wrote:
sovdat wrote:
Ernest Thesiger wrote: It just bothers me that they were written by the same person who wrote "What's that dot on your forehead, do you use it to see?" for SOD.
That was written in a sarcastic note.
You'll believe anything.
Do you believe that Angel of Death is a Nazi song too? :lol:

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 6:51 pm
by Ernest Thesiger
sovdat wrote:Do you believe that Angel of Death is a Nazi song too?
I knew "Angel of Death" was about the horrors of Auschwitz & wasn't a glorification of it, back when I first heard it aged 13. When SOD wrote "Speak English of Die" they really were narked off about immigrants working at grocery stores who couldn't speak English properly. Fair enough (I suppose) but that "Dot on your forehead" line (not to mention the title) takes it too far. It's not sarcastic, it's crass.

Anyway...

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 7:00 pm
by Abyss
Ernest Thesiger wrote:
sovdat wrote:Do you believe that Angel of Death is a Nazi song too?
I knew "Angel of Death" was about the horrors of Auschwitz & wasn't a glorification of it, back when I first heard it aged 13. When SOD wrote "Speak English of Die" they really were narked off about immigrants working at grocery stores who couldn't speak English properly. Fair enough (I suppose) but that "Dot on your forehead" line (not to mention the title) takes it too far. It's not sarcastic, it's crass.

Anyway...
Thats just the reaction they wanted out of you hahaha, I'm sure billy milano was serious about that particular song but I'm not sure about the others.

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 7:02 pm
by Ernest Thesiger
Abyss wrote:Thats just the reaction they wanted out of you hahaha.
Nah, they wanted people to mosh to it & go "FOCK YEH."

I prefer the Extra Hot Sauce album.

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 8:18 pm
by Cochino
How I see it they were actually mocking the people who really think that way. I see the SOD album as an irony towards American stupidity and ignorance.
And about Anthrax's "let's all get along" thing, it doesn't bother me just as it doesn't bother me Black Sabbath's christianity on the lyrics. The music overshadows the lyrics in those cases.
Back to the bad thrash topic, the album Beast On My Back by Crumbsuckers was really boring as far as I remember. I only heard it once and never felt the urge to give it another go.