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At this rate, building a decent vinyl collection will be impossible for the majority in a few years

On the other hand the Breaker EP was sold for "only" 162 Euro a few days ago...

ION BRITTON wrote:At this rate, building a decent vinyl collection will be impossible for the majority in a few years

Some things go up but they can also come down. The past couple of years have seen a lot of nwobhm vinyl come down in price while a lot of 90s stuff has gone up in price. The market fluctuates. A few years ago Salems Wych was consistently pushing $300, now you can get it for about half that amount. Hard to predict what prices will be like a few years from now; some obscure album gets circulated a little and suddenly everyone wants a copy, while a band member turns up with a box of copies of some big rarity and saturates the collecting market.

I meant that if in a few years from now somebody starts from zero to collect vinyl then he would need a lot more money compared to today or the last 10 years in order to build a respectable collection. Not talking about those who already have 1000+ items and they are now after Salem's Wyches and Dark Knights. People who would want to buy all the classic stuff on wax from the beginning will have a financially hard time. That's what I personally think will happen anyway.

Well, the tape is still cheap.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LORDS-CRIMSON ... 256b695c34

ION BRITTON wrote:I meant that if in a few years from now somebody starts from zero to collect vinyl then he would need a lot more money compared to today or the last 10 years in order to build a respectable collection. Not talking about those who already have 1000+ items and they are now after Salem's Wyches and Dark Knights. People who would want to buy all the classic stuff on wax from the beginning will have a financially hard time. That's what I personally think will happen anyway.

true. and I think, one has not to wait a few years. I didn't keep too much from my "old" metal days in the 80s (or didn't have too much at all) and am glad I came back in 2002 "already" when within the following maybe 5 years all the "regular" stuff was still relatively affordable. considering what someone has to pay nowadays for stuff like, say, Protector, Sodom, Venom, whatever I couldn't afford 25% of what is in my collection today. still, or even more, the rarer stuff is completely out of reach..

ION BRITTON wrote:I meant that if in a few years from now somebody starts from zero to collect vinyl then he would need a lot more money compared to today or the last 10 years in order to build a respectable collection. Not talking about those who already have 1000+ items and they are now after Salem's Wyches and Dark Knights. People who would want to buy all the classic stuff on wax from the beginning will have a financially hard time. That's what I personally think will happen anyway.

You could be right. But things could change. Since 2010 vinyl has become 'cool' among younger fans again, but who knows how long that will last? 5 years from now vinyl may be 'out' again, like it was during the 90s. And a lot of people who are currently snapping up tons of vinyl may not stick with it for the long term. History tells us many people go through short 'phases' that they grow out of within a few years. Priorities and interest change, and if a lot of these 'new' vinyl hounds sell their records in a few years, the supply will be large and thus the prices will come back down. Also, more people may be content with reissues or other formats instead of original vinyl pressings.
I'm not arguing and I get your point- it can be sort of dismaying to see even 'basic' metal items like 'Welcome to Hell' bringing $100+, and that would be especially daunting for a new fan just starting to collect. But 5 yearsx from now 'Welcome to hell' might be listed Buy it Now for $10, and you might not be able to get even that much for it b/c people have moved on to something else

To be honest, i never cared much about the "ups" and "downs" of metal vinyl prices. My concern is and always was, to find the records of my wants list, at the best possible price or by a trade. The "ups" and "downs" are for stock markets. The issue will affect me only if i ever have to sell my collection (which i hope i will never have to).

I think it's very possible to happen if things continue at this rate, as I've said a few posts above. Vinyl collecting might not be so 'hot' in a couple of years from now and things may change again. I can't know that at this moment. However as the situation is right now, it will be getting harder and harder to get even the most basic metal albums on vinyl.

chatzial wrote:To be honest, i never cared much about the "ups" and "downs" of metal vinyl prices. My concern is and always was, to find the records of my wants list, at the best possible price or by a trade. The "ups" and "downs" are for stock markets. The issue will affect me only if i ever have to sell my collection (which i hope i will never have to).

Same here. I only collect the albums that I like and that i thus intend to keep, so i don't worry too much about price fluctuations; I'm not buying stuff and then waiting for 'the right time' to sell. But like most folks, I want to get the best deal possible why I buy something

Acid - Maniac LP 59$

I myself have begun building my collection in the recent years and i already find it difficult to come across some decent prices... For example these two Lords Of The Crimson Alliance and Acid were selling for 25$ the last two years in a weekly/monthly basis... now both reached the 60$ price...

It sucks to start collecting in the late 00s

However, for those who think Militia is expensive.
http://www.ebay.de/itm/NEUROOSI-rock-vs ... 1c224968cc

ION BRITTON wrote:I think it's very possible to happen if things continue at this rate, as I've said a few posts above. Vinyl collecting might not be so 'hot' in a couple of years from now and things may change again. I can't know that at this moment. However as the situation is right now, it will be getting harder and harder to get even the most basic metal albums on vinyl.

True. But often it depends also on the field of interest.
Now early Death and Black Metal is very popular and expensive,
the vast majority of NWOBHM albums are not (because not considered "real" Metal by many).
Top and well known rarities however tend to be more stable in prices ...

Not only Death and Black Metal vinyls and CD's are at insane prices (compared to the quantity that was pressed), also common 80's Thrash vinyls like Darkness, Razor, Sodom, Protector, even some Kreator LP's etc are rarely to find below 20 E while there are thousands of them being pressed and one may think everyone must have a copy of them by now, but there's no change in sight, since years the madness never ends. In the 90's those were 5 DM records in every second hand shop and noone was interested. I don't think there will happen a big change in the price explosion. Sure, some who collect "for fun" will disappear and re-sell their stuff while those who are around since 25 years are willing to pay more and more for a special record because they already got the "basic stuff" and are going "into detail". And since there will be more and more of them, they will all concentrate on "those special records". That's my future vision. But deep inside I wish that most will disappear and leave those records in 10 years to me.