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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:14 pm
by chatzial
glockose wrote:If you want to use the word RARE and not value

I would say the Blind Vengence and he LA Guns are still very rare
Then the Lips and Baran Cross
After that Not very rare

The LPs i posted, in the early to mid '90s were legendary among collectors. I remember seeing the Explorer's front cover at RC bootleg CD and i thought that i could never get it. As for Rods and Lips, if someone wanted to buy them, he had to pay a small fortune for them.
Now i bet that there are many collectors that can post a photo like that, they are not considered top rarities.

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:25 pm
by LethylSteel
He's right, I remember the Rods and Lips LP's being offered at dealers lists for 1000 DM similar to a blue Savatage "Sirens"!
But musically ... naja ... :wink:

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:34 pm
by Glockose
Prices where a lot differant outside the USA.

I just pulled some old lists of mine from the 90's

Rods $200
Lips $250
Exxplorer $175
LA Guns $200
Motly Crus 2nd press $100
Queensrych 206 $60
Q5 $50
Blind Vengence $75
Mass $35
Powerlord $40
Overkill $50
Barron Cross (Blue Vinyl) $100

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:49 pm
by sovdat
caminantenocturno wrote:
LethylSteel wrote:Image
What are those? They look very Black/Death-ish ...
I just uploaded Bootlegs second album on poisonoise. I haven't heard WC Monster in years but as far as I remember it was really average thrash with some HC in it ... The self titled album is quite good actually in my opinion.

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:07 pm
by Glockose
Ok how much have prices changed

1995

Black Knight $150
Blitz (4 song from TX) $100
Commander $20
Commander 1 sided Pic Disc $25
Druid (on Crossbone) $40
Emmy Strut $100
Heathens Rage $75
Inner Sanctum $100
Leather Nunn $175

1997

Black Knight $150
Blitz (4 song from TX) $100
D.D.T. $75
Inner Sanctum $100
Leather Nunn $250
Messiah Final Warning $100
Messiah Going Insane $175
Motley Crue Leathur First Press $200
Quest $75
Ray Gunn $60
Rellik $100
Salem's Wych $100
Villain $350
X-caliber $75


1999

Black Knight $150
D.D.T. $125
Dragonne $175
Messiah Final Warning $125
Mezmerist $125
Quest $100
Rellik $125
Savatage Blue Vinyl $350


2002

Barren Cross Blue Vinyl $100
Bashful (4 song on Artic) $80
Blitz (4 song from TX) $75
Emmy Strut $175
Kratos $80
Ray Gunn $100
Rellik $100
Salem's Wych $125
Warchylde $300
Weapon $75

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:22 pm
by Khnud
Interesting to see that the price on e.g. Inner Sanctum hasn't changed a bit during the last 15 years. Still looking for a copy of that, so it gives me hope to see it hasn't exploded in price like some of the others.

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:36 pm
by Glockose
How have these changed

Singles 1998

Air Borne (Clubland) $125
Cuero Metal (Mexico) $100
Marquis De Sade no/ps $125
Grave (Sweden) $100
Stonehenge (Sweden) $100
Treasure (Sweden) $100
Wizzard (Sweden) $80


2000

Arrowz (Sweden) $100
Legend Hideaway $125
Scarab Poltergeist $100
Y Diawled $175
Vault (Holland) $125

2002

Apocalypse storm child w/insert $175
ARC tribute $40
aurora $100
Bleak House Lions in Winter $100
Chaser Raiders $175
Dawn Watcher spellbound $200
Denigh $100
Dragonslayer $225
Gotham City $225
Hammerhead time will tell $125
Hazzard snake in the grass $150
Hell $80
Kraken $100
Marquis De Sade w/ps & insert $600
Ore $100
Overdrive $150
Persian Risk w/ps $300
Ricochet w original ps $350
Sweet Savage take on prisoners $175
Triarcky w/ps $175
220volt $250
Tyrant $225
Zone Zero $100

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:38 pm
by Piotr Sargnagel
Also Black Knight now is about €150 in 2012 so not much has changed with that, am I correct? Why is that?

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:45 pm
by Glockose
Piotr Sargnagel wrote:Also Black Knight now is about €150 in 2012 so not much has changed with that, am I correct? Why is that?
Not Rare, When the band was found in the 90's they had 100's of copies.
I think a board member has a pic of himself with 100 copies spread out in a Hotel room somewhere ....

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:46 pm
by perishinflames
Black Knight often sells for less than 150 USD, I would guess supply was boosted with the internet age. Interesting that Y Diawled has actually gone down since then, I paid $100 for a brand new copy only last year. Thanks for the snapshot of the past, for those few of us who were not collecting back then.

edit:
glockose wrote:Not Rare
I don't suppose you have any of these Black Knight laying around? :wink:

I have been looking for a copy at a decent price for years, no luck so far.

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:57 pm
by Sgt. Kuntz
VILLAIN is also a perfect example, everyone was after a copy about ten, fifteen years ago or so, but you rarley hear it mentioned now. COMMANDER 20$ on the other hand, is the one that is killing me.

I think STREET CHILD or PARADOXX were relatively unknwon in the 90s just like WITCH “Salem’s Rise” was a few years ago. No US singles on your list John, who would have thought that they would become almost as eligible as NWOBHM singles.

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:00 pm
by Dirty Rocker
I've been looking for a black knight for a decent price too without luck.. :/

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:05 pm
by Glockose
USA singles 1995

Assassin $70
Breaker $45
Destroyer $125
Druid four curses $80
Lost Breed $25
Nightchild $30
Prowler $50
Sashay $25
Siren $35


2002

Assassin $100
Beast Power Metal $100
Destroyer $125
Genocide the coming of $15
Czar $80
Lost Breed $30
Jonas Grumby $60
Kil D'Kor / Max Planck $20
Mistreater hells fire $50
Phenomenon $125
Prowler $150
Squadran $25
Steeler $75
Zebroid $40

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:19 pm
by chatzial
glockose wrote:USA singles 1995

Assassin $70
Breaker $45
Destroyer $125
Druid four curses $80
Lost Breed $25
Nightchild $30
Prowler $50
Sashay $25
Siren $35


2002

Assassin $100
Beast Power Metal $100
Destroyer $125
Genocide the coming of $15
Czar $80
Lost Breed $30
Jonas Grumby $60
Kil D'Kor / Max Planck $20
Mistreater hells fire $50
Phenomenon $125
Prowler $150
Squadran $25
Steeler $75
Zebroid $40
I remember XCEL single for $100 or $125 ??(i don't remember) and of course FAR EAST single (when you located BMC i think, a few months later i located Alias Mangler)

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:28 pm
by Glockose
When I found BME no one really cared to much.

Far East (1)
Tora Orphen (1)
Theatrics (2)
Works (10)
Zebroid (4)

I only got a few and have never realy found or seen them again that was around 98 or 99

I only know of 1 copy of Far East and of Tora that showed up on ebay
But I dont think a Theatrics ever did.