Recent Metal Finds (2013)

Yakish · Post by **Yakish** » Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:13 am

MetalDelight wrote: Great finds and cool stuff!
Intruder/Vicious Rumors etc

Thanks mate! I am not surprised nobody here mentioned first Sinner CD which is the rarest among others finds. It cost me years of hard search, letters etc. and finally i found a copy without IFPI

Heathen wrote: Need Master Of Madness on Scratch badly. And Exumer Wink And Tyrant.

You'll find them all you know it. Just a question of time as always. Patience always rewarded, those who don't want to wait years and take a risk are paying insane prices. I still need also last Scratch CD to complete my collection which you bought for just 35 euros.

Heathen wrote: Every CD released on Scratch is at least good in my opinion, some great... Veto and Tyrant are probably the weakest.

I agree with first part of your message. GAMA label had ultra-nice taste in music (just in my personal preferences of course) and i really like all CDs released under Scratch sub-label.
Totally disagree about Tyrant and Veto, because "Ruling The World" my favourite Tyrant album and especially Veto "Carthago" - masterpiece. These small and short-lived bands with just a couple of albums beat many huge names with their commercial albums, long discographies, nonsense existence just as famous trademark which continue to release plastic souless computerized crap. I really glad all those Vectom, Tyrant, Veto, Noisehunter, Gravestone classic albums were released shortly before their split-up.

Yakish · Post by **Yakish** » Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:38 am

perishinflames wrote:How much does that Hellion usually go for?

I saw it just once on eGay ended auction sold for 100+$ and some absolutely crazy amazon.com examples like 300-400$ but of course it's not adequate price tag.
So, as almost every old NRR CD from 1987 (no matter how good it musically) it could reach 100$ on eBay i think. Hard to say for sure it pops up very rarely. Only re-issue from 00's still easy available for normal price.

Grimlord · Post by **Grimlord** » Wed Nov 20, 2013 1:43 pm

perishinflames wrote:How much does that Hellion usually go for?

I bought it for $75 from Thallos a couple of years back

mordred · Post by **mordred** » Wed Nov 20, 2013 3:09 pm

It's kind of weird to see middle of the road 80's stuff like Chastain, Vicious Rumors, Intruder or even Hellion that cost nothing on LP considered some sort of rarities when they're on shiny silver discs. I mean, that Hellion "Screams in the Night" LP can be found everywhere in bargain bins for like 10 euros and still nobody wants to buy it. But the same album reissued on an irrelevant format is apparently worth its weight in gold. It's sick.

Same with the entire Gama/Scratch records catalog.

Once again, "cd" is short for "children's disc", they're not metal and they do NOT count as real records.

Helstar · Post by **Helstar** » Wed Nov 20, 2013 3:25 pm

Are you high or what ? How old are you, calling cds collectors 'children' ? Not even if you are 100 years old you should do that anyway

Yakish · Post by **Yakish** » Wed Nov 20, 2013 3:52 pm

Hey mordred! Nice sense of humor (however as and musical taste too), but it's obvious why things like you described above happen regularly, isn't it? How many copies of classic metal album as, let's say, "Possessed By Fire", "Into The Dark Past" or "Darkness Descends" were pressed on LP back in 80's? And how many first pressing CDs of mentioned albums were made also in 80's? I am sure difference in quantity is huge! As everyone here already know the same happened with vinyl in mid-90's and prices on even such a strange albums like "Endorama" or "Virtual XI" are high or insanely high. The main reason here, i am almost sure, lays in non-music plane, but in psychological. Each obsessed metal collector wants to be the only one or at least one among few chosen ones who keep "those exact very first ultra-mega-limited press". Second reason is collecting music in only one particular format. That's why some guys continue to pay hundreds for Megaslaughter chilean CD bootleg. original LP costs 50 euros, easy available, but they need only CD version.
I personally prefer more CD as main format in my collection, non-remastered, without tons of bonus tracks, fat booklets. If there was no CD version of album back in 80's, early 90's then i'll buy original LP, but rather as exception of my rules, just because i hate modern re-issues in all aspects.
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Sincerely yours, with deep respect to feelings of both CD and vinyl maniacs

mordred · Post by **mordred** » Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:14 pm

Helstar wrote:Are you high or what ? How old are you, calling cds collectors 'children' ? Not even if you are 100 years old you should do that anyway

You should know that the concept of cd as an abbreviation for "children's disc" was invented not by me but by the creator of this forum. Somebody's gotta carry the torch now that DaN has had it with the forum and possibly never will return.

One of the fundaments of the idea behind the Corroseum is (again, Dan's words) that "cd's are toys and not actually records". The Corroseum was (and is) a salute and a battle cry for obscure and overlooked metal on vinyl and nothing else and there is no reason to forget about that or try to change it. Besides, I was basically just trying to write something humorous.

@Yakish: Cheers!

Helstar · Post by **Helstar** » Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:25 pm

There are already separated threads for cds/vinyls (Collector Porn, Insane Auctions, Non Urgent Questions, etc.), let's do that too for Recent Metal Finds so you won't see the 'toys' photos ever again. Happy ?

Ps. Who cares of what Dan wrote anyway. If (example) he calls you little child because you buy 90s thrash metal vinyls, then I should do that too ? I don't think. We are not sheeps.

Heathen · Post by **Heathen** » Wed Nov 20, 2013 5:09 pm

mordred wrote:Once again, "cd" is short for "children's disc", they're not metal and they do NOT count as real records. (...) Somebody's gotta carry the torch now

It's the torch of ignorance (and I am being polite here) and it should be thrown in shame to the nearest lake rather than carried. But hey, everyone carries a 'torch' that describes them the best.

Nice logic by the way, CDs fetch higher prices so they are not metal and their owners are childen

mordred · Post by **mordred** » Wed Nov 20, 2013 5:17 pm

Helstar wrote:There are already separeted threads for cds/vinyls (Collector Porn, Insane Auctions, Non Urgent Questions, etc.), let's do that too for Recent Metal Finds so you won't see the 'toys' photos ever again. Happy ?

Ps. Who cares of what Dan wrote anyway. If (example) he calls you little child because you buy 90s thrash metal vinyls, then I should do that too ? I don't think. We are not sheeps.

I'll be happy when I can write something fairly simple and completely light hearted and nobody has a tantrum or gets their feelings bruised.

As for caring about Dan's views or not, he is the sole creator of this website and its forum. The Corroseum is entirely dedicated to vinyl collecting (just look at his album reviews, the label discographies or the compilation albums archive) and as was the forum to begin with. The cd direction of the forum was developed much later on by a clique of visitors that were drawn here by the kind of music that was discussed. Dan let it happen, which he didn't have too. He could easily have said he didn't want any of that on his forum because he called the shots all along and he doesn't care about cd collecting one bit personally.

You don't have to like any of this but it's something to keep in mind, at least to the extent that when you come to an internet forum originally for vinyl collecting to discuss the collecting of cd's, you don't get surprised or insulted when occasionally somebody takes the piss based on the items you are collecting.

Again, cheers, I guess.

Helstar · Post by **Helstar** » Wed Nov 20, 2013 5:21 pm

Without cds threads the forum would have 2-3 posts each month (at best) since 2009, I think ^^

With your logic, I should go piss in the vinyl threads because somebody paid 1000$ for whatever USA private press that has been reissued for 10$ on cd

Grimlord · Post by **Grimlord** » Wed Nov 20, 2013 5:22 pm

or you can just collect both formats equally and don't care what other people think...

thrashidolatry · Post by **thrashidolatry** » Wed Nov 20, 2013 5:40 pm

Grimlord wrote:or you can just collect both formats equally and don't care what other people think...

that's what it's about, otherwise it's nebucha-whatever niveau

Lama · Post by **Lama** » Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:39 pm

Grimlord wrote:or you can just collect both formats equally and don't care what other people think...

Rightly so!

Forums tend to go in directions that move away a bit from the original idea after some time. For example, go take a look at the NWN!-forum. What started as a discussion board focusing on the more extreme, or obscure kinds of (underground) metal, became a hotspot for racist/fascist/nazi-ramblings.

Mordred, you should be happy that after all these years the Corroseum, for the larger part, deals in only one thing : a shared passion for Metal of the traditional kind. Who cares if one listens to Tyrant on cd or on vinyl...

Heathen · Post by **Heathen** » Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:03 pm

DaN did include CDs in the lists of releases for each label so maybe he is not as alergic to CDs as we are led to believe.

+1 to the idea of splitting metal finds topic into two parts.