Bootleg Warning Thread

Avenger · Post by **Avenger** » Sat Sep 24, 2011 7:19 am

CloudsOfMetal wrote:
Osmi_Putnik wrote:According to Denis from Sentinel Steel this is official releases from Unisound, he said that he work directly with members or representatives of these bands:

ALCHEMY X 11:59:59
ARMAGEDDON Rev 16:16 EP
AXEMASTER Death Before Dishonour
AXEMASTER The Awakening 1985-1995
CAGE Astrology
CLAIRVOYANT Fighter's Soul
DARK QUARTERER Dark Quarterer
DECEPTOR The Legend
DEFENDER Remaining Tales
EXORISTOI Exoristoi
MADD HUNTER Raiders from the North
NIGEL FOXXE'S INC War of the Godz
PULS Bigbit Je V Nas
SARISSA Sarissa
SLEEPY HOLLOW 1989-1992: Rest In Pieces
STEEL ASSASSIN From the Vaults
TWISTED TOWER DIRE Battle Hymns to the Pantheon
VAVEL Vavel
VAVEL The Second Death
VICE HUMAN Vice Human + Metal Attack
VORTEX Metal Bats + Open The Gate
VYNDYKATOR Heaven Sent From Hell
WISDOM Rain Dream
WYVERN Back To the Ancient Rage
Z Keepers of the Sign
I bought that Dark Quarterer cd since it seems to be the only cd release of the the album and not a long time ago I found a thread about it on here where everyone complained about every aspect of that certain cd.

Oh god, well I'll see it by myself, I'm not very picky but if it's totally half-assed release where even tracks are listed wrong I will get mad.

I still don't believe it.

Let's see scans of the signed contracts.

Then I'll believe.

This label is way too shitty and dubious.

Stormspell · Post by **Stormspell** » Sat Sep 24, 2011 7:37 am

Well, back in the day when I used to sell on eGay I sold an EQUIMANTHORN CD to a guy who turned to be Proscriptor himself. He told me they had a deal with Unisound, but the guy just kept making new pressings with random artworks (not authorized by the band) etc. so in the end the contract got breached on so many levels, it is really a semantics whether this is legit release or not anymore.

I believe this is the case with the majority of Unisound's releases.

Avenger · Post by **Avenger** » Sat Sep 24, 2011 7:42 am

stormspell wrote:Well, back in the day when I used to sell on eGay I sold an EQUIMANTHORN CD to a guy who turned to be Proscriptor himself. He told me they had a deal with Unisound, but the guy just kept making new pressings with random artworks (not authorized by the band) etc. so in the end the contract got breached on so many levels, it is really a semantics whether this is legit release or not anymore.

I believe this is the case with the majority of Unisound's releases.

So, sign a "semi-legal" contract and then void it and shit on the bands several times over.

That's good business practice.

Stormspell · Post by **Stormspell** » Sun Sep 25, 2011 1:49 am

There you go. Now you know everything to start your own label

Avenger · Post by **Avenger** » Sun Sep 25, 2011 10:09 am

stormspell wrote:There you go. Now you know everything to start your own label

Apparently so.

Osmi_Putnik · Post by **Osmi_Putnik** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:03 pm

Has someone noticed that Cult Metal Classics cds have matrix no. "band name - album name" ??? I got 3 their cds and all 3 are like that?!? What the hell!
What that mean... their cds are made by the same manufacturer that made boots or what?

perishinflames · Post by **perishinflames** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:07 pm

Osmi_Putnik wrote:What that mean... their cds are made by the same manufacturer that made boots or what?

Well, they are a Greek label...

I don't have any CMC CDs to compare, but it is probablt that they are made in the same plant.

omen of hate · Post by **omen of hate** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:19 pm

I've checked some and it's album title - Cult Metal - Catalog Number.
For example OVERDOSE - Tight Action :
Tight Action Cult Metal 040

Osmi_Putnik · Post by **Osmi_Putnik** » Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:02 pm

omen of hate wrote:I've checked some and it's album title - Cult Metal - Catalog Number.
For example OVERDOSE - Tight Action :
Tight Action Cult Metal 040

Check for me matrix number not catalog number

sovdat · Post by **sovdat** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 12:44 pm

Ebay user simydg1970 ... looks like a bootleger?? (2 original Life Beyond CDs ... and bootleg of 1st Angel Dust ... a bit weird 2nd Angel Dust & 3rd Deathrow etc ... - but is there a bootleg of 1st Apocalypse OOT?)

Zdan · Post by **Zdan** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 2:13 pm

An a Apocalypse sidenote - does anyone know how to tell the bootleg edition of "Faithless" apart from the real CD pressings?

emperor.zola · Post by **emperor.zola** » Sun Oct 02, 2011 4:34 pm

I placed a bid on Faithless, but didn't make it.
I'd like to know as well what's the difference between the original and the bootleg.

perishinflames · Post by **perishinflames** » Sun Oct 02, 2011 5:21 pm

As I posted in the other thread, the original has the silver part of the matrix going further in towards the inner ring of the disc. Similar to Apocalypse debut on Out of Tune, Stone 89 on Megamania, etc. Bootleg has a more normal matrix. At least all the copies that used to turn up looked that way.

Avenger · Post by **Avenger** » Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:41 pm

perishinflames wrote:As I posted in the other thread, the original has the silver part of the matrix going further in towards the inner ring of the disc. Similar to Apocalypse debut on Out of Tune, Stone 89 on Megamania, etc. Bootleg has a more normal matrix. At least all the copies that used to turn up looked that way.

I don't own the "Faithless" CD because I don't like it but this does make sense. The Matrix of original CD's are never perfectly centered on the center ring. This is also another giveaway on, for example, the Target boot that everyone not in the "know" claims is identical to an original.

perishinflames · Post by **perishinflames** » Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:50 pm

I'm probably not explaining this well. I mean the silver "matrix" covers most of the plastic inner ring, kind of like this:

Except it doesn't go in quite as far. The bootleg, well look at the pictures you'll see it looks "normal"