It might even end of Wikipedia at the end of the day!

I guess 'the danger' now is to see it used by people who still haven't understood (and never will) what is Real Metal?!
"Traditional" and "true" or "real" are two different things.J.K. wrote:Those who listen to true/real/trad metal know what it exactly means... And those who don't will never understand this point, so, I don't really care about all those terms.
bigfootkit wrote:"Your Steel Is Not True"
stormspell wrote:"I hate all my releases. I only listen to Korn and Limp Bizkit, don't you know..."
Not to sound offensive, because I know the guy posts here every once in a while, but since when do the statements made by members of a band formed in the mid 90's become any bit creditable?Xstroyer wrote:"Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, and Iron Maiden. If Heavy Metal strays too far from the sounds of those three bands, it starts no longer to be Heavy Metal."
So it is said by Howie Bentley (Cauldron Born) and I can't disagree.
bigfootkit wrote:"Your Steel Is Not True"
stormspell wrote:"I hate all my releases. I only listen to Korn and Limp Bizkit, don't you know..."
Since they make sense? It's not very accurate, but it's a statement I agree with at least in part.Avenger wrote:Not to sound offensive, because I know the guy posts here every once in a while, but since when do the statements made by members of a band formed in the mid 90's become any bit creditable?Xstroyer wrote:"Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, and Iron Maiden. If Heavy Metal strays too far from the sounds of those three bands, it starts no longer to be Heavy Metal."
So it is said by Howie Bentley (Cauldron Born) and I can't disagree.
That will be the final word for me.Avenger wrote:
Either way, this thread is probably the epitome of Metal nerdery and elitism. haha...
I'm not attacking the debater; I'm questioning the "tRoOnEsS" if you will, about the origins of that statement.great_knuthulhu wrote:Since they make sense? It's not very accurate, but it's a statement I agree with at least in part.Avenger wrote:Not to sound offensive, because I know the guy posts here every once in a while, but since when do the statements made by members of a band formed in the mid 90's become any bit creditable?Xstroyer wrote:"Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, and Iron Maiden. If Heavy Metal strays too far from the sounds of those three bands, it starts no longer to be Heavy Metal."
So it is said by Howie Bentley (Cauldron Born) and I can't disagree.
Since when did attacking the debater instead of what he says become an accepted form of debate?
bigfootkit wrote:"Your Steel Is Not True"
stormspell wrote:"I hate all my releases. I only listen to Korn and Limp Bizkit, don't you know..."
No offense at all but "true metal" is a 90s term after all, so why shouldn't a 90s band's statement cannot become creditable?Avenger wrote:Not to sound offensive, because I know the guy posts here every once in a while, but since when do the statements made by members of a band formed in the mid 90's become any bit creditable?Xstroyer wrote:"Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, and Iron Maiden. If Heavy Metal strays too far from the sounds of those three bands, it starts no longer to be Heavy Metal."
So it is said by Howie Bentley (Cauldron Born) and I can't disagree.
Because terms change?Xstroyer wrote:No offense at all but "true metal" is a 90s term after all, so why shouldn't a 90s band's statement cannot become creditable?Avenger wrote:Not to sound offensive, because I know the guy posts here every once in a while, but since when do the statements made by members of a band formed in the mid 90's become any bit creditable?Xstroyer wrote:"Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, and Iron Maiden. If Heavy Metal strays too far from the sounds of those three bands, it starts no longer to be Heavy Metal."
So it is said by Howie Bentley (Cauldron Born) and I can't disagree.
Personally, I don't care if the statement comes from a 90s band, 80s band or whatever, I just said that I agree with this specific statement.
In the 80s there were no "true" metal, just Heavy Metal. So for me there is Heavy Metal (even as a sub-genre if you like) and false metal. After all so it is said by Manowar since 1983 ("Death to false metal") if you like an older statement.
To conclude, as it is written before: "Either way, this thread is probably the epitome of Metal nerdery and elitism."
bigfootkit wrote:"Your Steel Is Not True"
stormspell wrote:"I hate all my releases. I only listen to Korn and Limp Bizkit, don't you know..."
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