MARQUIS DE SADE-Somewhere Up in the Mountains LP HRR

MEXDefenderOfSteel · Post by **MEXDefenderOfSteel** » Thu Aug 09, 2012 3:28 am

Prayers of steel have been heard! i didnt know about it until a couple of days ago buying some stuff from High Roller website. Like i have stated before,this kind of releases always makes me happy, no reason to pay stupidly high money for this piece of art anymore...ill keep praying for Mendes Prey and Charger ha!

You guys think the price of the original ones will go down?

Dodens Grav · Post by **Dodens Grav** » Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:46 am

I forgot about this...is it out yet? Absolute must-have.

MEXDefenderOfSteel · Post by **MEXDefenderOfSteel** » Thu Aug 09, 2012 3:57 pm

Dodens Grav wrote:I forgot about this...is it out yet? Absolute must-have.

seems schedule for september

daniel · Post by **daniel** » Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:07 pm

There is already another release of these same tracks on HRR from 2005, which I have. So this just has an insert and different cover, pointless for me to get it. Seeing as the previous issue didn't affect the price why should this, besides it's a 12" compilation.

Nightcrawler · Post by **Nightcrawler** » Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:20 pm

daniel wrote:There is already another release of these same tracks on HRR from 2005, which I have. So this just has an insert and different cover, pointless for me to get it. Seeing as the previous issue didn't affect the price why should this, besides it's a 12" compilation.

I have that LP as well. It is a bootleg, so I guess that´s why it is reissued....Don´t think I´ll buy it...

Dodens Grav · Post by **Dodens Grav** » Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:15 pm

Exactly the point...the first MdS release for High Roller was a bootleg. This is official.

daniel · Post by **daniel** » Thu Aug 09, 2012 10:41 pm

That's absurd... So the same company first puts out a bootleg, then later an official version, and some people might buy it a second time because it's now legit and appeals to their sense of "duty"... And the label gets payed again...

Avenger · Post by **Avenger** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:41 am

I have to agree with daniel on this one. It's just a sad attempt at a money grab. If the label had any morals they would pay for those that bought the apparent bootleg copies to ship them back and replace them with this new "legit" pressing for free.

Herkus Monte · Post by **Herkus Monte** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:23 am

daniel wrote:That's absurd... So the same company first puts out a bootleg, then later an official version, and some people might buy it a second time because it's now legit and appeals to their sense of "duty"... And the label gets payed again...

As far as I know it is not entirely HRR to blame for that bootleg. They had allegedly been told they had the rights to the relase the MdS stuff, and it wasn`t quite so. Joe Pangallo was involved in that release, wasn`t he? I think the similar case was with the first Sparta compilation.
I do not have the bootleg, I will buy that release in the future. Only that those shipping costs from HRR scare me off

Nightcrawler · Post by **Nightcrawler** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:35 am

Herkus Monte wrote:
daniel wrote:That's absurd... So the same company first puts out a bootleg, then later an official version, and some people might buy it a second time because it's now legit and appeals to their sense of "duty"... And the label gets payed again...
As far as I know it is not entirely HRR to blame for that bootleg. They had allegedly been told they had the rights to the relase the MdS stuff, and it wasn`t quite so. Joe Pangallo was involved in that release, wasn`t he? I think the similar case was with the first Sparta compilation.

...and the Hell compilation on HRR

MEXDefenderOfSteel · Post by **MEXDefenderOfSteel** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:56 am

sorry, i didnt know about the boot version,good thing ill only pay once for it

GJ · Post by GJ » Fri Aug 10, 2012 9:27 am

Well High Roller did start out somewhat shady. But I belive they learned their lesson and have done well to make amends.

I had to make a list to try and sort things out about their early releases with bands that later have gotten legit releases in different form. Three out of four of these were released on Hades Paradise and distributed by HRR. The info was mostly taken from Musik-Sammler.de. Here it is if anyone's interested:

Marquis De Sade

S/T

Hades Paradise/High Roller Records
HP 004
2005

Somewhere Up In The Mountains
Black Angel
Living In The Ice Age
Welcome To The Graveyard
London Air
Somewhere Up In The Mountains

Somewhere Up In The Mountains

High Roller Redords
HRR 242
2012 (to be released in September)

Somewhere up in the Mountains
Black Angel
Welcome to the Graveyard
London Air
Living in the Ice Age
Somewhere up in the Mountains

Sparta

S/T

Hades Paradise/High Roller Records
HP 006
2005

Rock Don't Roll
Boy King
Fast Lane
Angel Of Death
Tonight
Lords Of Time
Fighting To Be Free

Use your weapons well

High Roller Records
HRR 188
2011

Fast Lane
Fighting To Be Free
Angel Of Death
Tonight
Lords Of Time
Rock For You
Gods Of War
Street Walking
Shady Lady
Lady Evil
Hot Rock

Crossfire
In League
Welcome To My Nightmare
Legends
Assassin
Dr. Bill
Lord And Master
Rich Bitch
Wild Touch
Trees And Fields

Rock Don't Roll
Boy King
Fast Lane (Alternate Take)
Tonight (Alternate Take)

Urchin

S/T

High Roller Records
HRR 001
2004

She's A Roller
Long Time No Woman
Black Leather Fantasy
Rock & Roll Woman
See Right Through You
See Right Through You
Walking Out On You
Watch Me Walk Away
The Latest Show
Life Time

High Roller

High Roller Records
HRR 001 (same as above bootleg)
2010

Keeping It Mellow
Life In The City
Watch Me Walk Away
Countdown
Livetime
The Late Show
My Lady
Animals

Get up and get out

High Roller Records
HRR 212
2012

Madman
Need Somebody
Get Up And Get Out
Little Girl
Countdown
Lifetime
Don't Ask Me
Suicide

Black Leather Fantasy
Rock & Roll Woman
She's A Roller
Long Time No Woman

Demon Pact

S/T

Hades Paradise/High Roller Records
HP 005
2006

Waiting For The Lady
Escape
Aint No Woman
Demon Pact
Eaten Alive
Raiders

Released from Hell

High Roller Records
HRR 104
2010

Demon Pact
Raiders
Eaten Alive
Ain't No Woman Made A Fool Out Of Me
Physical Feedback
Escape
Cry Witchcraft
Physical Feedback
No Class
Losing
Sick Child
Ain't No Woman Made A Fool (Remix)
Demon Pact (Remix)

Avenger · Post by **Avenger** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 11:06 am

Uh, my question is how do you not know if you have the rights to release something or not? Do you not have the copyright holder sign a contract with the stipulations?

Aiden · Post by **Aiden** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:25 pm

So the Hades Paradise one is a bootleg?!?! I never knew that. I'm not buying it again though!!

Professor Black · Post by **Professor Black** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:47 pm

Avenger wrote:Uh, my question is how do you not know if you have the rights to release something or not? Do you not have the copyright holder sign a contract with the stipulations?

No idea about this specific case, but all kinds of things can happen. Sometimes one bandmember can mistakenly represent that he is the sole rightsholder. Or sometimes a band can mistakenly assume a label's ownership has expired, etc. Bands do not always understand the contracts they sign. Likewise a lot of people in underground business do not have a good understanding of the laws and principles around copyright when they start out. Some learn and change their ways, some will never care, etc.

Anyway, Mendes Prey have received offers from a number of interested labels but have not chosen to take any action as of yet.

I talked to the HRR guys about some of my wishes, ha, and they were not familiar with Charger. I have tried to contact someone from Charger to ask permission to print some shirts, but no response.

They (HRR) told me about a great NWOBHM item in the pipeline though, a title everyone here knows but with some very tasty extras. I hope it is announced soon because I can't keep it secret forever...