Bootleg Warning Thread - CD (2012)

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Post#286 » Sun Oct 28, 2012 12:23 pm

Thanks Wom ! Very good, please fuckin bootlegers: if you keep doing them, do always like these ! :lol:

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Post#287 » Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:50 am

Does anyone know what the bootleg for the Vengeance (NLD) - S/T 1984 CD looks like?
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Post#288 » Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:34 pm

Heathen wrote:looks like they do cant use spaces in the matrices and the font does not have the"@" sign ;)
exactly. same for Wombbath:

original
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emperor.zola
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Post#289 » Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:46 pm

I checked only the last (2) page for this one... but I'm afraid there is a new title to be added to the bootleg list:
Exodus - Bonded by Blood (Torrid 1985) press...
Pretty much identical, but the printing on the disc fails miserably. Especially the small characters under the COMBAT logo on the left side. The paper is different this time, not the shine one, but some matte, not glossy paper... the front cover is printed in a much darker tone... under the tray my copy has some colorization from the back side too, some blue ink remains in a thin line... neither the disc has the shiny outer ring as usual.

http://diabolical.uw.hu/pics/exodus_01.jpg
http://diabolical.uw.hu/pics/exodus_02.jpg
http://diabolical.uw.hu/pics/exodus_03.jpg

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Post#290 » Tue Oct 30, 2012 8:17 pm

emperor.zola wrote:I checked only the last (2) page for this one... but I'm afraid there is a new title to be added to the bootleg list:
Exodus - Bonded by Blood (Torrid 1985) press...
Pretty much identical, but the printing on the disc fails miserably. Especially the small characters under the COMBAT logo on the left side. The paper is different this time, not the shine one, but some matte, not glossy paper... the front cover is printed in a much darker tone... under the tray my copy has some colorization from the back side too, some blue ink remains in a thin line... neither the disc has the shiny outer ring as usual.

http://diabolical.uw.hu/pics/exodus_01.jpg
http://diabolical.uw.hu/pics/exodus_02.jpg
http://diabolical.uw.hu/pics/exodus_03.jpg
Based on the 2nd picture that looks like an original 3rd pressing of the disc on combat/torrid to me, it has the normal nimbus matrix and even the fuzzy stuff on the top that some nimbus discs have. If it was a bootleg someone sure went through an insane amount of trouble to replicate the old nimbus disc design.

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Post#291 » Tue Oct 30, 2012 8:41 pm

slayerhatesusall2 wrote: Based on the 2nd picture that looks like an original 3rd pressing of the disc on combat/torrid to me, it has the normal nimbus matrix and even the fuzzy stuff on the top that some nimbus discs have. If it was a bootleg someone sure went through an insane amount of trouble to replicate the old nimbus disc design.
If you take a look on the disc here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/EXODUS-BONDED-B ... 2324731bf4

or Sovdat's original
http://www.thecorroseum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=3338

--- the borders around the Exodus logo are fractured as well. I'd like to have the original, but I have serious doubts about that.

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Post#292 » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:20 pm

Where can I buy this Exodus bootleg? :)

looks original to me.

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Post#293 » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:42 pm

emperor.zola wrote:
slayerhatesusall2 wrote: Based on the 2nd picture that looks like an original 3rd pressing of the disc on combat/torrid to me, it has the normal nimbus matrix and even the fuzzy stuff on the top that some nimbus discs have. If it was a bootleg someone sure went through an insane amount of trouble to replicate the old nimbus disc design.
If you take a look on the disc here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/EXODUS-BONDED-B ... 2324731bf4

or Sovdat's original
http://www.thecorroseum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=3338

--- the borders around the Exodus logo are fractured as well. I'd like to have the original, but I have serious doubts about that.
The ebay link looks like the original usa 2nd pressing, at a different plant then the nimbus one, sovdats picture is the original made in japan 1st pressing, the nimbus one is the 3rd pressing, probably made around 1988-1989 before the cover was changed.

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Post#294 » Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:01 am

If the disc has the common issue of the “lacquer” on the top surface being soft and easily imprinted or scratched then it's from 1987-1988. The issue was fixed come 1989 on all US made Nimbus CD's.
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Post#295 » Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:08 pm

Heathen wrote:Where can I buy this Exodus bootleg? :)
looks original to me.
Could you check the photos of the original here:
EXODUS-Bonded by Blood,1985 Torrid/Combat

and my disc?
Especially the text "All Songs Published by Exodus...", especially my capital letter A and P....
and again, the text under the COMBAT logo is completely unreadable on my copy.

Still vote this as an original? I'm very curious now!

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Heathen
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Post#296 » Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:17 pm

By the looks of it the two are not the same presses... your scan CD is made by nimbus (I think it is original because the matrix either is an original nimbus matrix,or the bootlegers have found the holy grail of making it really identical), the ebay auction looks like a different press.

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Post#297 » Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:24 pm

You cannot keep comparing different pressings of the CD when it comes to clarity of the print... The color of the face of the disc and the matrix appears 100% legit for a Mastered By Nimbus CD manufactured in the USA.

So do this correctly and find someone who bought the Mastered By Nimbus pressed CD back in the day, and compare to that instead...
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Post#298 » Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:09 am

Warepire wrote:So do this correctly and find someone who bought the Mastered By Nimbus pressed CD back in the day, and compare to that instead...
But people lie about when they bought shit. Especially when selling it.
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Post#299 » Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:10 am

Avenger wrote:
Warepire wrote:So do this correctly and find someone who bought the Mastered By Nimbus pressed CD back in the day, and compare to that instead...
But people lie about when they bought shit. Especially when selling it.
I know that, I didn't say it would be easy.

The other option is to gather a hell lot of photos and see if any of them have a different CD face print.
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