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There are only 50 copies of Paradoxx and that is not a legend, i have confirmed it over the years with ex-members and friends of the band.nightsblood wrote:Then again, Paradoxx has the hype; everyone knows the 'only 50 copies escaped the pressing plant' legend, and it's been known even to moderate collectors for ages.
Some of the copies are sold more than once. I mean that some of the Ebay auctions at popsike are of the same record.perishinflames wrote:Strange how many copies of Paradoxx are in the wild if it is actually 50 copies. There have been a lot of Paradoxx sold in the last 10 years or so (hell at least 2 on Amazon.com) but only a few Militia etc that had a bigger pressing.
Were all the copies the band didn't take destroyed? Some could have been taken by people from the pressing plant or record company.
i was not talking about the last 2 auctions of Paradoxx, those were by a band member's son and another owener from Chicago.Nightcrawler wrote:hmmm, don't know about the sales apart from Ebay, but I can't imagine that those people who put those auctions on Ebay were also the winners from the previous auctions. If I recall right, the sellers were mostly from the Chicago area, and I thought the winners of the previous auctions were mainly from Europe. But who knows?
They did not "escape" the factory. Due to the fact that the factory did a mistake at the labels, the band got some copies and glued over the mistaken labels, cheap ones with correct tracklisting. Those copies were given at the release party. The record was supposed to be printed again but never did. Even if the 50 copies is not correct (although a band member said that they were only 50), they for sure were very few in circulation.Death Rider wrote:"Legends" apply until they will fall. The 50 Paradoxx copies "that escaped the factory" is a funny legend for me, same as the 100 copies "that escaped the factory" of the Lord Ryur single... that in reality is 200 copies in a total pressing of 1000 - The legend says that 800 were destroyed.
I remember older days about the 1000 Medieval Steel EP vinyls. It didn't last long. It was 5000.
The funny is that these "legends" were spread by collectors or band members. I will wait for the next Paradoxx auction (soon I guess...) to laugh more.
I am pretty sure that there will be another Paradoxx soon.Death Rider wrote:As I said, "legends" apply until they fall. Same as Lord Ryur. We will see if another Paradoxx copy will be out soon...
Lately, many "expensive" records (not like Paradoxx of course) are spread and "destroy" the higher price of the past, like Trop Feross EP (crap record btw). This is funny, and to be honest, I like it.
Yes, it's confirmed. 'Legend' may have been a poor word choice on my part. My point is that it's one of those stories that practically everyone knows; it has a legendary status among heavy metal collectors ('legendary' as in holy grail item known to all, not legendary' as in imaginary or made up).chatzial wrote: There are only 50 copies of Paradoxx and that is not a legend, i have confirmed it over the years with ex-members and friends of the band.
That's cool; IMO it's decent but not outstanding.In my opinion Paradoxx is one of the best private U.S. Metal releases.
Well, here we get back to Glockose's old question of "what is rare?". Some numbers to consider:And since it is one of the rarest U.S. Metal vinyls, it is not "wrong" for it to fetch high prices.
chatzial wrote: But here is an example, Jim Cranford bought over the years many rare records from Ebay (i know, he outbid me in many records). After many years he sold his collection mainly through Ebay. That means that some of his rarities were sold through Ebay twice. And this is only one example.
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