The very Firsts bands mixing hardcore-punk with metal thrash (crossover)

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The very Firsts bands mixing hardcore-punk with metal thrash (crossover)

Post#1 » Sat Sep 10, 2016 7:48 pm

Hello.

Tell me please some bands that where the very first (crossover) punkHardcore/metal bands even before the whole crossover crew appeared... (DRI, SOD, Agnostic Front, etc...)

So... i mean the very first bands, perhaps asking for PROTO (PRÉ)-crossover bands!!!!

tHANKS a lot guys! :lol:

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Re: The very Firsts bands mixing hardcore-punk with metal thrash (crossover)

Post#2 » Sat Sep 10, 2016 10:28 pm

"Morbid Tales" by Celtic Frost has a Massive Discharge/Crude SS influence.
"Killed By Faith" by Abandoned (from 1985) is a HC band that has adopted alot of Metal Influences.
Battalion of Saint's LP "second coming" from 1984 is also a HC band sounding very Metallic
many more.......
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Re: The very Firsts bands mixing hardcore-punk with metal thrash (crossover)

Post#3 » Mon Sep 12, 2016 9:22 am

GISM?
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Post#4 » Mon Sep 12, 2016 3:38 pm

As obvious as it may sound, Motörhead pretty much embodies crossover. Or proto-crossover if you prefer.

Some early occurrences that come to mind include Brats (pre-Mercyful Fate), Tank, Plasmatics, The Beast (NJ)... then a bit later English Dogs, Sacrilege (UK), and a lot of Japanese bands (GISM, The Execute, Ghoul, Gastunk, Zouo...). I'm sure I forget a lot of obvious ones.

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Post#5 » Tue Sep 13, 2016 11:42 am

Maybe Frigid Bich and The Beast (I mean the band known from the allegedly unofficial "Last Beastial Incarnation" LP).

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Re: The very Firsts bands mixing hardcore-punk with metal thrash (crossover)

Post#6 » Wed Sep 14, 2016 4:41 am

Since we're throwing names around I will say Mentors

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Post#7 » Wed Sep 14, 2016 8:51 pm

Howsabout the last 2 Mayhem (UK) EP's, 'Pulling Puppet Strings' & 'Bloodrush'?
Maybe the 'Megalomania' EP & 'Se Parare Nex' LP by The Blood, and the Overkill (L.A.) stuff might fit the bill too.
Worth mentioning Bad Brains too, i always thought they had a really 'Metal' guitar tone & they truly nailed playing at break-neck speed before most others.

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Post#8 » Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:37 pm

Check out this platter too. from 1981. CHINA WHITE "dangerzone" LP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ejjd9O5Ot4Y
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Post#9 » Sun Oct 02, 2016 10:27 am

Punishment of Luxury usually lumped more in with post-punk, but this one song is surprisingly metallic for 1979 punk music imo (especially that thrashy chug under the chorus):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wL_W5sQHK_8

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Re: The very Firsts bands mixing hardcore-punk with metal thrash (crossover)

Post#10 » Mon Oct 03, 2016 4:24 pm

Overkill (the Los Angeles band on SST, not the better known NJ band)

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Post#11 » Fri Nov 04, 2016 12:56 pm

bigfootkit wrote:Howsabout the last 2 Mayhem (UK) EP's, 'Pulling Puppet Strings' & 'Bloodrush'?
Maybe the 'Megalomania' EP & 'Se Parare Nex' LP by The Blood, and the Overkill (L.A.) stuff might fit the bill too.
Worth mentioning Bad Brains too, i always thought they had a really 'Metal' guitar tone & they truly nailed playing at break-neck speed before most others.

I was just about to mention the blood and overkill la. Also recently was listening to Cockney Rejects "greatest hits vol 1" and "vol 2" and a lot of their songs have a heavy hard rock/metallish vibe specifically the song "the rocker" which I think sounds like a Holocaust song with punk vocals. I guess you could also put some songs on The Damned "Machine Gun Etiquette" in this category as well the title track, Love Song and Plan 9 Channel 7 all have a lot of fast Eddie Clarke style leads on them.

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Re: The very Firsts bands mixing hardcore-punk with metal thrash (crossover)

Post#12 » Thu Nov 10, 2016 10:22 pm

You may say Blast started mixing 'em before both were invented :lol:

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Post#13 » Sat Nov 12, 2016 5:45 pm

Maxim wrote:You may say Blast started mixing 'em before both were invented :lol:
Maxim are you familiar with the Japanese band The Execute? They sound insanely similar.

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Post#14 » Sat Nov 12, 2016 8:11 pm

mustardgasattack wrote: Maxim are you familiar with the Japanese band The Execute? They sound insanely similar.
Well, I am not that much into hardcore myself (esp. Japanese one) but I will check them out of curiousity.

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