Suspected fake live recordings

GJ · Post by GJ » Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:13 am

Manilla Road's Roadkill has quite a few attendants added to the original audience.

Would be cool to have them removed if there will be a reissue of that album.

MetalizeR · Post by **MetalizeR** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:10 am

Dont forget Helloween - 'Heavy Metal is the law' hehe

Satrapold · Post by **Satrapold** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:25 am

What about Cloven Hoof - Fighting Back? Quite obviously recorded in the studio with fake audience noise, and most probably with a drum machine

Avenger · Post by **Avenger** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:10 pm

What is the point in doing this anyways? Does anyone actually prefer listening to a live recording much less a fake one then the studio version?

This defeats the whole purpose of it being "live".

Ernest Thesiger · Post by **Ernest Thesiger** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:10 pm

Avenger wrote:Does anyone actually prefer listening to a live recording

Depends. Some live albums are storming, some are useless.

Herkus Monte · Post by **Herkus Monte** » Wed Feb 06, 2013 10:46 am

Avenger wrote:What is the point in doing this anyways? Does anyone actually prefer listening to a live recording much less a fake one then the studio version?

This defeats the whole purpose of it being "live".

I believe many bands were compelled to that by their labels. Let us take the example of the afore mentioned Cloven Hoof - they just had to record a live album after their debut LP according to the contract. Allegedly.
I don`t like live albums at all. Waste of money in my view, unless there are some track that never got into any studio recordings.

bigfootkit · Post by **bigfootkit** » Sat Feb 09, 2013 3:18 am

Herkus Monte wrote:I don`t like live albums at all. Waste of money in my view, unless there are some track that never got into any studio recordings.

I don't know about that.
Although i do tend to favour studio recordings over their live counterparts, sometimes a live album really captures the atmosphere of a gig.
Or once a song has been "broken in" by being played live for a while, it can occassionally sound far better in a live version.
For some reason the "Alive" version of "Black Diamond" by Kiss springs to mind as a good example of a live version of a song making the studio counterpart sound utterly anaemic.
The irony that "Alive" is one of the "fixed" live albums mentioned here is not lost on me however.

Herkus Monte · Post by **Herkus Monte** » Sat Feb 09, 2013 7:58 am

I don`t deny there might be enjoyable live recordings, but don`t you agree they are just another way to make money on "faithful fans" who need to have "everything" to prove their faithfulness?

Satrapold · Post by **Satrapold** » Sat Feb 09, 2013 10:28 am

Ernest Thesiger wrote:
Avenger wrote:Does anyone actually prefer listening to a live recording
Depends. Some live albums are storming, some are useless.

True that. I don't usually care for live albums but the exceptions then are more than great, such as Unleashed In The East where I prefer most songs to their album versions, and Staying A Life which might actually be my favorite ACCEPT record.

bigfootkit · Post by **bigfootkit** » Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:13 pm

Herkus Monte wrote:I don`t deny there might be enjoyable live recordings, but don`t you agree they are just another way to make money on "faithful fans" who need to have "everything" to prove their faithfulness?

There's definitely some truth to that Herkus, but then, as completist fans, we keep the live album alive by buying the damn things, and i'm as guilty as the next guy.
If no-one bought them, no-one would sell them.
I guess we're complicit.

Dokken_Uwe · Post by **Dokken_Uwe** » Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:26 pm

To me live records only make sense if they deliver some variations to the studio version, otherwise i could listen to the latter one instead. Just sayin'.

doomedplanet · Post by **doomedplanet** » Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:34 am

Scorpions Tokyo Tapes, fuck what a live album! Hope to go see Uli when he comes through the area in about 3 weeks

did anyone ever watch the Rainbow live in Munich DVD with the video off and just listen to the music? Perfect show when they were at their peak.

Dokken_Uwe · Post by **Dokken_Uwe** » Sun Feb 10, 2013 1:05 am

The Kraken (can) live tracks on the "Underground 80-83" CD got a fake crowd too (looped yells and noise as if they were playing in front of 1000s of peoples).

Keir · Post by **Keir** » Sun Feb 10, 2013 2:03 am

Since this thread has become a sort of list of suspected fake live recordings, I'll add another:

Tyrant (UK) - the "Live At Gloucester" tracks from The Tyrant Anthology CD.

Dokken_Uwe · Post by **Dokken_Uwe** » Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:20 am

Tyrant (Ger) "Live and crazy"

Another one with faked audience i.m.o.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=TP0zQhg0ulA