SUPERNAUT - s/t 1974

tomas · Post by **tomas** » Sun Jun 28, 2009 6:59 pm

I put this in the 'Into Battle' section because it's about a proto-metal band. Or at least I think it is.

I first heard those recordings today and I have a hard time believing they were made in 1974. They just don't sound 70s to me, especially the drums. Maybe this is a new band and therefore a hoax? Any thoughts?

Black Axe · Post by **Black Axe** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 6:51 am

You just don't know with these one vague recording bands. Without any evidence of liveshows or any release back in the day it's hard to tell.

If it would be from the '70s it's one of the heaviest/most Sabbathish bands out there. And that makes it hard to believe. Just like the first Jacula.

decibelrebel · Post by **decibelrebel** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 7:00 am

Oh no this band was definitely no hoax & Supernaut is a great album! I'd say the general opinion is that S/T album leaned more toward glam rock than anything else, definitely one of the forgotten relics of the 1970ies Aus. rock scene.

Their later new wave/punk (loosest use of that term punk) stuff was ok too but for me the s/t album is the only one I spin 'I Like it Both Ways' is catchy as hell, one of those songs that when it gets in my head it stays there for days!

...1976, not 1974.

daniel · Post by **daniel** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:07 am

Absolute shit.

Black Axe · Post by **Black Axe** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 12:07 pm

decibelrebel wrote:Oh no this band was definitely no hoax & Supernaut is a great album! I'd say the general opinion is that S/T album leaned more toward glam rock than anything else, definitely one of the forgotten relics of the 1970ies Aus. rock scene.

Their later new wave/punk (loosest use of that term punk) stuff was ok too but for me the s/t album is the only one I spin 'I Like it Both Ways' is catchy as hell, one of those songs that when it gets in my head it stays there for days!

...1976, not 1974.

The British one

The Australian one is a great record though.

Khnud · Post by **Khnud** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 12:21 pm

Have been looking for that one for a while. I'd love to hear it!

decibelrebel · Post by **decibelrebel** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 7:35 pm

Black Axe wrote:The British one

Never heard of 'em
(dub, anyone?)

bigfootkit · Post by **bigfootkit** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:16 pm

I thought we were talking about the Aussie band too, wasn't the UK band another one of those old terrible sounding/looking Kissing Spell releases? If it was, i'd double check the facts surrounding its provenance. Many of their releases were bootlegs with the acts being renamed to prevent detection, Antrobus being a prime example, this was actually the Scottish band Iron Claw. There's also an album (sorry the band name escapes me), by "a band" featuring John Du Cann (Atomic Rooster) and Pete French (Atomic Rooster/Leaf Hound), which French later took exception to, saying they were bedroom demos that the 2 recorded together (during their Rooster days), in one afternoon. The label had given the record a fictitious band name and a false back story about the "short lived band", making out that this was a separate entity altogether. I believe Du Cann had sanctioned this release however.
The Aussie band played some good Glammy Hard Rock stuff though, check the crazy performance clip of "I Like It Both Ways", from '70's Aussie tv on youtube.

GJ · Post by GJ » Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:57 pm

bigfootkit wrote:wasn't the UK band another one of those old terrible sounding/looking Kissing Spell releases? If it was, i'd double check the facts surrounding its provenance.

I bought a few Kissing Spell releases back in the day (mid-nineties). And until now I had never heard of this renaming scam.

A few names in my collection: Charge, Irmin's Way, Daemon (supposedly pre-Bullet, pre-Hard Stuff) and maybe one or two more. Do you know if there are any good sources on the net for finding out the true origins of their releases? Have an urge for clarifying of stuff like time of recording, musicians featured - and the name of the band.

Did they get (any of) the song titles right?

Khnud · Post by **Khnud** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:55 am

Kissing Spell did indeed release that Supernaut album.

great_knuthulhu · Post by **great_knuthulhu** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:26 am

There's loads of very suspicious stuff that was out on Kissing Spell in the 90s. Daemon is certainly one. The British Supernaut is another one. The CD contains a supposed authentic newspaper clipping from the Chesterfield Chronicle (May 15th 1974) on the band, but I can't even find said paper on the Internet. I must say I find the material on it pretty boring, though definitely heavy.

bigfootkit · Post by **bigfootkit** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 6:07 pm

GJ wrote:
bigfootkit wrote:wasn't the UK band another one of those old terrible sounding/looking Kissing Spell releases? If it was, i'd double check the facts surrounding its provenance.
I bought a few Kissing Spell releases back in the day (mid-nineties). And until now I had never heard of this renaming scam. A few names in my collection: Charge, Irmin's Way, Daemon (supposedly pre-Bullet, pre-Hard Stuff) and maybe one or two more. Do you know if there are any good sources on the net for finding out the true origins of their releases? Have an urge for clarifying of stuff like time of recording, musicians featured - and the name of the band. Did they get (any of) the song titles right?

The Daemon album is the one i was specifically talking about earlier, i couldn't remember the "band's" name. I read that this was a bedroom jam between Du Cann & French during their time in Atomic Rooster, but was later punted by Kissing Spell as a rare lost album by a short-lived band. Which was patently false as French has stated in a few interviews since. I believe the Charge album is genuine and saw a limited release back in the '70's, but can't say as i know anything about Irmin's Way.
Most of the scarce info i've found on the label and it's releases has been from specialist blogs and forums around the net. You could maybe ask over at http://www.hellridemusic.com/forum/foru ... y.php?f=49
See this thread for more info on the Antrobus/Iron Claw "confusion".
http://www.hellridemusic.com/forum/show ... php?t=5037
Audio Archives was another reissue label which issued a lot of material of dubious provenance, but some of it was worth hearing for historic reasons.
Hope this info is useful.

Warbus · Post by **Warbus** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:19 am

GJ wrote:
bigfootkit wrote:wasn't the UK band another one of those old terrible sounding/looking Kissing Spell releases? If it was, i'd double check the facts surrounding its provenance.
I bought a few Kissing Spell releases back in the day (mid-nineties). And until now I had never heard of this renaming scam. A few names in my collection: Charge, Irmin's Way, Daemon (supposedly pre-Bullet, pre-Hard Stuff) and maybe one or two more. Do you know if there are any good sources on the net for finding out the true origins of their releases? Have an urge for clarifying of stuff like time of recording, musicians featured - and the name of the band. Did they get (any of) the song titles right?

I think there was a lengthy thread about Kissing spell on the Psychedelica yahoogroup, I think you can search their archives even if you're not a group member. I have the "Hellhound" lp on Kissing spell, sloppy proto-"doom" w/crappy sound...yet still strangely enjoyable. Kissing spell also released that "Axe" live album that is rumoured to have a few songs by a completely different band...haven't heard that one so can't confirm either way.

Black Axe · Post by **Black Axe** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:36 am

bigfootkit wrote:I read that this was a bedroom jam between Du Cann & French during their time in Atomic Rooster

They were just a day together in Atomic Rooster.

bigfootkit · Post by **bigfootkit** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:15 pm

Black Axe wrote:
bigfootkit wrote:I read that this was a bedroom jam between Du Cann & French during their time in Atomic Rooster
They were just a day together in Atomic Rooster.

That can't be right can it?

They're both on the "In Hearing Of..." album.