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Helm wrote:This is uncanny!! Oh Mustane!
Well this has been discussed already here
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nar marratuk wrote:what about a more obvious one like the resemblance or almost identikit between CHILD SAINT" I am future" and MEGADETH track "rust in peace"??? I believe there's a bit of a story there but who's to know??
It is the song Child Saint that is almost identical to Rust In Peace... Polaris :)
Here's what I found out with the help of google.
I did a bunch of research and came across the Child Saint drummers email at www.metal-archives.com, gave him a shout, and basically just asked him about the band, and the song. Here's what he had to say:

Mike,
"Yes, I was in Child Saint. In the early 80s, John Spectre, from Child Saint was jamming with a friend of his in Huntington Beach CA. Johns friend had another guy for them to jam with, Dave Mustane. Dave had an unfinished song called Child Saint. After playing for a while, John asked Dave if he could have the song and finish it. Dave said that was cool. John and Brian Scott finished writing the song in early 84. We recorded the song on a demo in 85, and on the 12" single in 88. In 89 after an Iron Maiden show at the Forum in L.A., we were played on the KNAC local band radio show. Mustane heard and started claiming we stole the song from him. After that, he decided to put it on his record. Since he had the money of the record behind him, we didn't fight it. Child Saint broke up about a year later. So, that is the story behind Child Saint and Dave Mustane.
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The opening riff to the following songs:

Dio - Caught In The Middle

Sweet Savage - Straight Through The Heart
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Avenger wrote:The opening riff to the following songs:

Dio - Caught In The Middle

Sweet Savage - Straight Through The Heart
Viv Campbell probably took it with him.
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Tysondog - Shoot To Kill

Iron Maiden - Sanctuary

Almost same opening.
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Was just playing some Handsome Beasts and remembered this one:

The Handsome Beast's Sweeties and Give Me More by Sammy (from their 1972 S/T LP)
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Just noticed this one this morning; the bass melody/fill/whatever at the beginning of Sabbath's 'The Shining' is the same as later used by Alice In Chains at the beginning on 'Down In A Hole'.
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Pisen Pro Satana - Root main riff
No Future - Anialator somewhere in the beginning
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Focus - Hocus Pocus and Blitzkrieg - Blitzkrieg

One of the riffs is practically identical.
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Chafe wrote:Focus - Hocus Pocus and Blitzkrieg - Blitzkrieg

One of the riffs is practically identical.
They stole more than a riff there.
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jman wrote:I think the main riff in Master's "MASTER" is the same as the Buzzcocks riff "You Tear Me Up"
holy shite, you mean i'm not the only one who noticed?! :o

the opening drums of YTMU was possibly the first D-beat ever..
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Dave_the_Boss wrote:The Obsessed - Freedom sounds a LOT like Black Sabbath - Slipping Away.
haha, what's funny is Wino's stolen the main riff from SAB's 'all moving parts' on more than one occasion :lol:
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Not exactly the same riffs, but pretty similar:

HELLBASTARD - Heading for internal darkness / METALLICA - Creeping death
EXCITER - Die in the night / METALLICA - Creeping death
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off-topic, but i think HELLBASTARD's metal album on Earache is very underrated, great catchy thrash riffage; just a different beast from the godly crust years...

did anyone mention '2 min to midnight' b/w 'curse of the pharoahs' already?
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DTP wrote:off-topic, but i think HELLBASTARD's metal album on Earache is very underrated, great catchy thrash riffage; just a different beast from the godly crust years...
Pretty boring stuff imo and a very disappointing change of direction. I can't find even one riff that can be compared to anything that's included in Rippercrust, Hate Militia or Heading for internal darkness.
BTW, some people have told me that the new album was by far their worst effort. I need to check it out myself, although i really don't expect much.
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i'll admit i was let-down by 'natural order' when i first heard it, it totally grew on me later on...not the first thing i'd recommend to folks wanting top-shelf thrashmetal, but still good in a BayArea way...but yeah, the early stuff crushes it, easily...

they have a new album?! oh boy...... :lol:
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