The first Lp is not always the best...

MEXDefenderOfSteel · Post by **MEXDefenderOfSteel** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:50 pm

Yeah, many good bands released a mediocre/bad debut, and then they got good/awsome in their next releases...which are your examples guys

...(im not talking about how they progressed technically over the years)

Shadow Kingdom · Post by **Shadow Kingdom** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:55 pm

Well I still think Rock A Rolla is a great album, but Sad Wings is obviously better.

steelegacy · Post by **steelegacy** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:35 pm

to be honest ,i believe that its the opposite that happens on most of the bands.

Helm · Post by **Helm** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:09 pm

Manilla Road came into their own on around the third album.

Andreas · Post by **Andreas** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:41 pm

Belgian Warhead released a rather mediocre first 'Speedway'album, but I just love the second album 'The day after'.

Great satanic speed metal.

nightsblood · Post by **nightsblood** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 4:10 am

Not very kvlt, but Kamelot's 1st three albums were sub-par, then they started turning out fantastic ones

I like Cirith Ungol's debut, but their later stuff is better

All three of the big UK doom bands (Anathema, Paradise Lost, My Dying Bride) did much better on later albums than on their debuts

Helm · Post by **Helm** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 4:13 am

Anathema's 'Serenades' is their best along with Pentecost III. My Dying Bride's 'Symphonare Infernus' EP along with 'As the Flower Withers' remains their most potent work. Paradise Lost's 'Lost Paradise' is perhaps the only one of those you mentioned I agree did better later on.

Korgüll · Post by **Korgüll** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 6:18 am

Helm wrote:Anathema's 'Serenades' is their best, My Dying Bride's 'Symphonare Infernus' EP along with 'As the Flower Withers' remains their most potent work. Paradise Lost's 'Lost Paradise'

All killer debut releases!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

& 'Gothic' was a great follow up release too...

...at the time...

ReichnRoll · Post by **ReichnRoll** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:19 am

I tend to think Aria got better and better until (at least) Blood for Blood.

More recent but Belphegor and Cacodaemon may fit in that thread too.

Nicko McBuff · Post by **Nicko McBuff** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:49 am

ANVIL, SAVAGE GRACE, RUNNING WILD

MEXDefenderOfSteel · Post by **MEXDefenderOfSteel** » Thu Nov 22, 2007 3:13 am

i must say the first Viking album (thrash US) is a lil boring, but the second release is the one that really has personality

MEXDefenderOfSteel · Post by **MEXDefenderOfSteel** » Thu Nov 22, 2007 3:20 am

nightsblood wrote:Not very kvlt, but Kamelot's 1st three albums were sub-par, then they started turning out fantastic ones

I like Cirith Ungol's debut, but their later stuff is better

All three of the big UK doom bands (Anathema, Paradise Lost, My Dying Bride) did much better on later albums than on their debuts

although i dont like these bands, they released albums that marked and era in metal later on, specially in Paradise Lost case, the Draconian Times of P.Lost is a totally different band from the one in the first album

this is what im talking about in this topic

ION BRITTON · Post by **ION BRITTON** » Thu Nov 22, 2007 9:48 am

ACCEPT come first to my mind.

Nightlock · Post by **Nightlock** » Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:15 am

ION BRITTON wrote:ACCEPT come first to my mind.

They didn't really shape up until their third or forth album as well.

Helm · Post by **Helm** » Thu Nov 22, 2007 11:56 am

Savage Grace were a good call, definitely.

Also, Taramis! Queen of Thieves was a bit boring, hah