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Post#31 » Fri Sep 11, 2009 7:16 pm

Kostas_Kailiazis wrote: @Nebuchadnezzar. Inline seems to be a sub-label or another Michael Jesch effort, i had forgotten about it. The Deceiver LP (i don't know about the CD and the Battery label it is on) is released through D&S AND Inline Music (same goes for the Heavenward debut CD-i don't know about the LP here), while the second Heavenward CD is released "exclusively" through Inline.

Pls don't forget about Mordancy CD, Embargo CD's etc.
At first there was a reference in Mordancy & embargo cds in the 1st page of that thread so I tried to add different releases. Yeah Battery, Inline, D&S, Gorgon (there are VERY interesting cd versions by that label & some of those printed as "limited edition" on the cd) are some of those labels.

As far as the 1st Heavenward there are 2 versions of it (both from 1991). D&S & Long Island, D&S & Rough Trade as I can remember right... I can't recall any Inline right now but I don't have the cds near me to check right now...

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Post#32 » Fri Sep 11, 2009 7:19 pm

hload wrote:
Nebuchadnezzar wrote:
DaN wrote:Always need 'em holes filled: http://www.thecorroseum.com/labels/ds.html
Very good attempt! Congrats! But D&S released also some very cool cds (along with the thrash/death ones) like the great s/t debut by German progsters Doomsday from Lower Saxony (nothing to do with the crappy follow-up) or Dorian Gray's debut or Macbeth with the "Beware of Human Agression" album & some more I can't recall. I think that would be cool to be made a similar attempt for another mystery label "Gorgon/Inline"...
you da man, brotha. excellent choises. actually first 3 dorian gray are so fucking great, i love these bastards....heavenward also, salvage, seventh avenue, phalanx.....i believe that we should add them in the database also. most of these bands were better than the ones featured in the vinyl compilations....
Thanks man, yeah some cool releases from that label(s). As far as the database as you know it's not my decision... :lol: 8)

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Post#33 » Fri Sep 11, 2009 7:31 pm

Kostas_Kailiazis wrote:@Rob: I saw him at the last UTH, we talk once in a while and of course see each other at KIT and UTH (try it once, haha!!!). Also, check your pm's

@Dan: There are more albums, please be patient for a few days, i will post what i know...

@Nebuchadnezzar. Inline seems to be a sub-label or another Michael Jesch effort, i had forgotten about it. The Deceiver LP (i don't know about the CD and the Battery label it is on) is released through D&S AND Inline Music (same goes for the Heavenward debut CD-i don't know about the LP here), while the second Heavenward CD is released "exclusively" through Inline.

Pls don't forget about Mordancy CD, Embargo CD's etc.
the 2nd heavenward is p&c from inline but on the spine is the gorgon logo, also on the back cover there are both logos.inline perhaps was the studio and gorgon the label?

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Post#34 » Sat Sep 12, 2009 11:54 am

Nebuchadnezzar wrote:As far as the 1st Heavenward there are 2 versions of it (both from 1991). D&S & Long Island, D&S & Rough Trade as I can remember right... I can't recall any Inline right now but I don't have the cds near me to check right now...
Rough Trade was only the distributer for this release.
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Post#35 » Sat Sep 12, 2009 11:56 am

hload wrote:
Kostas_Kailiazis wrote:@Rob: I saw him at the last UTH, we talk once in a while and of course see each other at KIT and UTH (try it once, haha!!!). Also, check your pm's

@Dan: There are more albums, please be patient for a few days, i will post what i know...

@Nebuchadnezzar. Inline seems to be a sub-label or another Michael Jesch effort, i had forgotten about it. The Deceiver LP (i don't know about the CD and the Battery label it is on) is released through D&S AND Inline Music (same goes for the Heavenward debut CD-i don't know about the LP here), while the second Heavenward CD is released "exclusively" through Inline.

Pls don't forget about Mordancy CD, Embargo CD's etc.
the 2nd heavenward is p&c from inline but on the spine is the gorgon logo, also on the back cover there are both logos.inline perhaps was the studio and gorgon the label?
I'm getting conflicting information on the second Heavnward CD. Was this released in 1992 or 1993 and when was the CD pressing released?
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Post#36 » Sat Sep 12, 2009 12:39 pm

Avenger wrote:
Nebuchadnezzar wrote:As far as the 1st Heavenward there are 2 versions of it (both from 1991). D&S & Long Island, D&S & Rough Trade as I can remember right... I can't recall any Inline right now but I don't have the cds near me to check right now...
Rough Trade was only the distributer for this release.

nope. it was also long island.

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Post#37 » Sat Sep 12, 2009 1:17 pm

Avenger wrote:
hload wrote:
Kostas_Kailiazis wrote:@Rob: I saw him at the last UTH, we talk once in a while and of course see each other at KIT and UTH (try it once, haha!!!). Also, check your pm's

@Dan: There are more albums, please be patient for a few days, i will post what i know...

@Nebuchadnezzar. Inline seems to be a sub-label or another Michael Jesch effort, i had forgotten about it. The Deceiver LP (i don't know about the CD and the Battery label it is on) is released through D&S AND Inline Music (same goes for the Heavenward debut CD-i don't know about the LP here), while the second Heavenward CD is released "exclusively" through Inline.

Pls don't forget about Mordancy CD, Embargo CD's etc.
the 2nd heavenward is p&c from inline but on the spine is the gorgon logo, also on the back cover there are both logos.inline perhaps was the studio and gorgon the label?
I'm getting conflicting information on the second Heavnward CD. Was this released in 1992 or 1993 and when was the CD pressing released?

1992

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Post#38 » Sun Sep 13, 2009 1:05 pm

hload wrote:
Avenger wrote:
hload wrote: the 2nd heavenward is p&c from inline but on the spine is the gorgon logo, also on the back cover there are both logos.inline perhaps was the studio and gorgon the label?
I'm getting conflicting information on the second Heavnward CD. Was this released in 1992 or 1993 and when was the CD pressing released?

1992
Thanks.

I only own the first album.

Is the In Line Music CD the only pressing of this?
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Post#39 » Sun Sep 13, 2009 1:29 pm

Avenger wrote:
hload wrote:
Avenger wrote: I'm getting conflicting information on the second Heavnward CD. Was this released in 1992 or 1993 and when was the CD pressing released?

1992
Thanks.

I only own the first album.

Is the In Line Music CD the only pressing of this?
don't know,brotha. i pray and hope NO! usually i never try to find out 'bout other pressings of olde cds that i already have and worship coz this is bad for my health(and wallet)......take for example the mad max i was telling you...i'm expecting one auction of it by late september in order to sharp my paypal steel and polish my ebay armour


edit: also the 2nd heavenward was only released on cd.

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Post#40 » Sun Sep 13, 2009 1:41 pm

The 1st Heavenward cd had (at least) 2 pressings, end of the story! 8)

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Post#42 » Sun Sep 13, 2009 1:54 pm


thanx bro. now i'm crying.....i don't have the pressing that robert is selling.are the lyrics included in this one?

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Post#43 » Sun Sep 13, 2009 2:05 pm

Yes that version has the lyrics, 8-page booklet, different matrix.

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Post#44 » Mon Sep 14, 2009 1:06 am

I have the same copy as the one that "wikking" is selling.
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Post#45 » Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:18 pm

This is the D&S releases list that I promised to post. The core comes from a German friend, with the additions of the non-metal releases found on the Corroseum label page. When I was putting together this list I noticed a difference in the Heavenward debut CD, see below.


GERMAN METAL TRACKS COMPILATIONS:

WK 30.616 Break Out (German Metal Tracks 1) LP, 1985 (with Not Fragile, Satans Pharynx, Glacial Sun, Chiolution, Breathless, Vengeance)
WK 30.671 Break Out (German Metal Tracks 2) LP, 1986 (with Advice, Arkham, Necromonicon, Ravage, Stained Class)
WK 30.698 Metal Hour (German Metal Tracks 3) LP, 1986 [with Stagefright, Heavy Current (actually a Swiss band), Breathless, No Request, Morgan Le Fay]
WK 30.746 Metal Hour (German Metal Tracks 4) LP, 1986 (with Lone Wolf, Iron Breed, Genocide, Violent Breed. Myriad)
WK 30.770 Metal Hour (German Metal Tracks 5) LP, 1987 (with Bloody Climax, Lancer, Midas Touch, Meanstreak, Flying Skull)

VINYL:

D&S 001 Die Stammelnden Heimkinder / Cretin Hoppers split LP, 1986
D&S 002 Courage – Gold and Ivory EP, 1986 (co-released with the band, 300 copies)
D&S 003 German Metal Fighters compilation LP, 1987 (with Dirty Fingers, Capital Rose, Slyzzer, Power Tower, Iron Age, Feline Melinda)
D&S 004 Die Stammelnden Heimkinder – Heut’ schon gestammelt? EP
D&S 005 German Metal Fighters compilation LP, 1988 (with Shining, Cat-Can, Scarecrow, Poison Asp, United Forces, Tempest)
D&S 006 Die Stammelnden Heimkinder – Bitte alle recht Frohlich EP, 1988
D&S 007 GB Force – The Force LP, 1988
D&S 008 Rage Heart – Too late to Return LP, 1988
D&S 009 Ninja – Invincible LP, 1988
D&S 010
DS/BTR 011 The Mirror Images – The Early Days LP, 1989
DS/BTR 012 Family 5 – Das Blaue vom Himmel LP, 1990
D&S 013 Red Rooster – Trouble? Take our Sister to party EP, 1989
D&S 014 Rage Heart – Beats again LP, 1989
D&S 015
D&S 016 Dawn Hawk – Dawn Hawk LP, 1990 (co-release with Inline Music)
D&S 017 Best of German Metal newcomer compilation LP (with Misfit, Gambit, Tempest, Lizzard). Released without a cover on red vinyl.
D&S 018
D&S 019
D&S 318 0020 Die Lokalmatadore – Ein leben fur die Armsten LP, 1990
D&S 021
D&S 318-0022-1 Deceiver – Tales of Time LP, 1991
D&S 318 023 Deztroyer – Climate Change LP, 1991
D&S 318-0024-1 Heavenward – Within these Dreams LP, 1991

CD’s:

DS CD 0100 Messina – Terrortory CD, 1990
DSR CD 001 Doomsday – Doomsday CD, 1993
DSR CD 002 Embargo – Panem et Circenses CD, 1992
DSR CD 003 Phalanx – The Judas Touch CD, 1992 (Released in two editions, 1st has a 12-page booklet and black CD with white border, 2nd has an 8-page one and the CD is black with orange border)
DSR CD 004 Riff Raff – Recently Deseaced CD, 1993
DSR CD 005 Dorian Gray – World of Lies CD, 1993
DSR CD 006 Vomitory – Baschlasophobic CD
DSR CD 007
DSR CD 008 Tenebra – Tenebra CD, 1994
DSR CD 009
DSR CD 010
DSR CD 011 The End of Music – Wait for Ages CD, 1995
DSR CD 012 Mordancy – Scars CD, 1993
DSR CD 013 Salvage – Salvage CD, 1991 (Released in two editions, 1st has a 4-page booklet, blue CD with silver print and is distributed by Semaphore, while the 2nd edition has a 2-page insert, black CD with silver print and is distributed through Long Island)
DSR CD 014 Brainpeaches – Amicap Eye mini-CD
DSR CD 015
DSR CD 016 Vex – Act of Revenge CD
DSR CD 017
DSR CD 018 Anguish – Lost days of Infancy CD, 1996
DSR 019 Antitox – Wrong way CD, 1994
DSR CD 020 Cogency – The Cogency Revenge CD
DSR CD 021
DSR CD 022 Necronomicon – Screams CD, 1994
DSR CD 023 Embargo – Children of a Lesser God CD, 1994
DSR CD 024
DSR CD 025 Phalanx – Look behind the Mask CD, 1995
DSR CD 026
DSR CD 027
DSR CD 028
DSR CD 029 Zykes Cross – Altered States CD, 1996
DSR CD 030 Dorian Gray – Man in the Dark CD, 1995
DSR CD 031
DSR CD 032
DSR CD 033 Seventh Avenue – Tale of Tales CD, 1996
DSR CD 034
DSR CD 035
DSR CD 036 Mortal Terror – Posthuman CD, 1995
DSR CD 037 Brainpeaches – Free line zoom on the intra oral teeth terror CD, 1996
DSR CD 038 Embargo – The Red Tide CD, 1997
DSR CD 039
DSR CD 040
DSR CD 041 Lightmare – The Fool CD, 1997
DSR CD 042 Bad Influence – Birth CD, 1997
Does it end on this release? (As D&S I mean)

DSR CD 10004 Heavenward – Within these Dreams CD, 1991 (Released in two editions. 1st has album title with small letters, 8 page booklet with lyrics, Inline distribution, silver CD without print, 2nd has album title with larger letters, 2 page insert, Long Island distribution, black CD with silver print).
It appears that my CD is different, as it has the 8-page booklet with lyrics, the CD is black with white/silver print, Inline music distribution, but the code is DS-CD 31800242 (Which looks like a continuation of the LP code).
DS CD 1002 Vomitory – Hour of Truth CD, 1991
DS CD 1102 Brainamputated – Can’t get enough CD, 1991

The following are D&S releases, but I haven’t info on them, so if someone can post their code, so I can edit the CD list…
Jinx – Drive it Heavy CD, 1991 (and can someone help as to what the music is about? M-A states “power metal”, I have read somewhere “raw metal, rap vocals”!!!)
Obscenity – Perversion Mankind CD, 1994
Tipsy Slut – Live is on TV CD, 1994 (?)
Tipsy Slut – Borrowed Time CD, 1996
Mortal Terror – The Evoking Self CD, 1996
Sub Machine – Horror under Street CD, 1996
Wotan – Tranquillity CD, 1996

And what about….
The Jamheads – Don’t get mad, get Stupid CD
The Jamheads – On the Loose CD, 1996 (Hard rock n’ roll)

In the list I have, the above CD’s are listed with a question mark, so they could be D&S releases.

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