Best-Favorite NWOBHM LPs ?

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Avenger
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Re: Best-Favorite NWOBHM LPs ?

Post#46 » Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:28 am

rumblefist wrote:
Avenger wrote: NWOBHM is an era, it's not a sub-genre.
Just for the record - it's your own opinion or something you did read somewhere ?
For me - and i've total right in affirming it because i didn't stand only with the albuns neither the 7''s and because i listened a lot, I've studied it deeply and keep studing it because metal lessons are always welcome.
And because i discussed this with some of the biggest NWOBHM collectors in the world - It's surely not a genre. I already said that on previous times on previous threads here on Corro - It featured Punk Rock bands that didn't please any punk rockers (and the biggest part of the local metalheads as well hahaha), Power-Pop, Space-Rock, Garage Rock, Blues-Rock, Boogie, Prog and Neo-Prog and even Hard-Rock (which isn't really Heavy-Metal).
Probably more close of an Era as you state, it's a a historic fact indeed - but where do you put a band that started let's say around 1982 and kept it going until 1988 not changing almost nothing on their music neither or on their atittude ? (i'm repeating myself - but a reply like yours "It's Not A Sub-Genre" it's not enough)....where did i say it was a sub-genre ?
Whether a band changed musical directions or even leaned in a slightly different one is irrelevant. Mentioning that a band remained sounding the same would be insinuating that the sound of a band (the sub-genre) is a determining factor in if their later efforts were considered NWOBHM or not regardless the year of release.

If that was the case, Slander would be the gold standard with their 1991 record but I think we can agree that would be ridiculous regardless how much it sounds like it could have been recorded in 1981.

The only real debate here is what year the movement ended and quite frankly 1983 saw the first real Speed/Power Metal offerings and 1984 saw Thrash records meaning the Metal movement as a whole had shifted and the (NEW)WOBHM was no longer that.

So no, I don't think an '85 or '86 record is NWOBHM. Not really sure who you've talked to but unless they were a member of a band at the forefront of the movement their opinion means just as much as any other enthusiast of the music. When you look at the era from a historical standpoint the years i've previously outlined make the most sense.
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Re: Best-Favorite NWOBHM LPs ?

Post#47 » Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:16 am

Too much hairsplitting for me, methinks. I'm out. ;-)
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Re: Best-Favorite NWOBHM LPs ?

Post#48 » Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:10 pm

-Both LEGEND LP's (the Jersey one)
-Witchfinder General. Friends of Hell
-Tokyo Blade.S/T
-Angelwitch . S/T
-all three CHATEAUX LP's
-SHIVA LP
-Heritage. Remorse Code. LP
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rumblefist
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Re: Best-Favorite NWOBHM LPs ?

Post#49 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:44 am

I'm not going to break more balls to the specialists here

But as my friend Priamos once said on another Thread - things sometimes are not or Black or White

sometimes are grey

I've my opinion as well about what happend to the NWOBHM movement and what went after on with a very restrict number of bands and musicians (the so-called post-NWOBHM).
And i think i will keep same opinion.
There's nothing here i didn't hear before.

I strongly recommend to everyone to re-start reading from start to finish the book of Malc Mcmillan

About the Mournblade discordance - guess what :
Malc spent a lot of time describing their 1st (official) tape - Servants of Fate (1984 ????? huh too late to be NWOBHM - ????)
and to the 1985 Time's Running Out. And he kept going until he said that only around 1988 the band did their departure from their old sounds...

and damn it - Shogun is also there !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Aren't their 1986 releases too late ????
http://nwobhm.com/shogun/

Seducer - page 536 - Caught In The Act LP 1985 (isn't this too late ????????)

This is why i still think post-NWOBHM is still the best tag to call what happened when the big thing vanished. The bands were formed on the peak of the "Era" but these same bands only reached their musical climax a little later then other bands that started before. And for this of argument it doesn't matter if Speed or Thrash or Power or AOR was already around with lots of bands also. It only matters if those bands kept their spirit and atittude a little longer.
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vasilis2112
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Re: Best-Favorite NWOBHM LPs ?

Post#50 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:36 pm

I would like to add some personal favorites I didn’t see mentioned here.

1) Millennium LP
2) Both Fist albums
3) Tytan - Rough Justice LP
4) can I add the magnificent Tyrant days at the farm and overdrive dishonest words?

borrel
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Re: Best-Favorite NWOBHM LPs ?

Post#51 » Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:53 pm

These are some of my favorites which aren't mentioned before (I think)

Fist-Back With A Vengeance
Raven-Rock Until You Drop/Wiped Out/All For One
Chinatown-Play It To The Death
Girlschool-Hit And Run
Legend-Death In The Nursery
More-Warhead
Preyer-Terminator
White Spirit-White Spirit

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Avenger
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Re: Best-Favorite NWOBHM LPs ?

Post#52 » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:07 am

rumblefist wrote:I strongly recommend to everyone to re-start reading from start to finish the book of Malc Mcmillan
Just because he published a book doesn't mean that his opinion on the matter is any more valid then any one else's. I know quite a few that don't agree with the guy at all. Some even on this forum.

I could write a Thrash book and include Doom Metal bands in it. That doesn't make them Thrash Metal lol...

Like I said, the NWOBHM was an era when Metal was just starting to gain traction as a genre. The sound, style or attitude don't have much to do with it. It's a time period.
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Re: Best-Favorite NWOBHM LPs ?

Post#53 » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:33 am

Avenger wrote:
rumblefist wrote:I strongly recommend to everyone to re-start reading from start to finish the book of Malc Mcmillan
Just because he published a book doesn't mean that his opinion on the matter is any more valid then any one else's. I know quite a few that don't agree with the guy at all. Some even on this forum.

I could write a Thrash book and include Doom Metal bands in it. That doesn't make them Thrash Metal lol...

Like I said, the NWOBHM was an era when Metal was just starting to gain traction as a genre. The sound, style or attitude don't have much to do with it. It's a time period.
Avenger, you just like to argue, and you HAVE to be right. Do you actually enjoy music?

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Re: Best-Favorite NWOBHM LPs ?

Post#54 » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:42 am

otcmetal wrote:
Avenger, you just like to argue, and you HAVE to be right. Do you actually enjoy music?
I wonder how this absurd idea came to your head! :lol: I think you are biased.
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otcmetal
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Re: Best-Favorite NWOBHM LPs ?

Post#55 » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:51 am

Priamos wrote:
otcmetal wrote:
Avenger, you just like to argue, and you HAVE to be right. Do you actually enjoy music?
I wonder how this absurd idea came to your head! :lol: I think you are biased.
You could be right. I need to take a hard look at myself, just to see what kind of person I really am... :shock:

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Re: Best-Favorite NWOBHM LPs ?

Post#56 » Fri Jan 26, 2018 5:14 am

otcmetal wrote:
Avenger wrote:
rumblefist wrote:I strongly recommend to everyone to re-start reading from start to finish the book of Malc Mcmillan
Just because he published a book doesn't mean that his opinion on the matter is any more valid then any one else's. I know quite a few that don't agree with the guy at all. Some even on this forum.

I could write a Thrash book and include Doom Metal bands in it. That doesn't make them Thrash Metal lol...

Like I said, the NWOBHM was an era when Metal was just starting to gain traction as a genre. The sound, style or attitude don't have much to do with it. It's a time period.
Avenger, you just like to argue, and you HAVE to be right. Do you actually enjoy music?
Having a contructive conversation isn't arguing...

No, I hate all music. My collection is just for decoration and the endless hours I've invested in the hobby is just because I like wasting my own time :)
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