Suspected fake live recordings

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Suspected fake live recordings

Post#1 » Fri Feb 01, 2013 5:52 am

Surface - Race the night(1986) It has the crowd in the backround with people whistiling, cheering etc, and states on metal archives it was recorded live, but i have a few problems with that. To start, the crowd seems pre-recorded making the same noises over and over, as if they are syncronizing their cheering, that stops exactly as the song starts. Also, the amount of people they seem to be playing for sounds like a packed arena, and although i really like the album, i dont think Race the night being their only recording would be enough to sell out an arena. At the end, when they leave the crowd, they dont name the city either Does anyone have any thoughts on this?

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Post#2 » Fri Feb 01, 2013 8:32 pm

Never heard this album.
But this reminds me of bonus tracks to Railway II CD. These are allegedly live recordings, but the crowd sounds just too artificial to be true.
Oh, and wasn`t "Roadkill" a bit "amended" in the studio to sound like a gig in front of a few thousand people and not a few hundred?
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Post#3 » Sat Feb 02, 2013 12:04 am

...and those wouldn't be the only examples of fake live crowd recordings, hell, Motörhead even did the fake live video thing haha ;)
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Post#4 » Sat Feb 02, 2013 5:33 am

Didn't Metallica also do this with the "live" tracks on the "Jump In The Fire" 12"?
I'm sure i read someplace that they took "No Life 'til Leather" demo recordings and added crowd noises.
And that Surface record does indeed sound as if it's been "tampered" with.
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Post#5 » Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:57 am

bigfootkit wrote:Didn't Metallica also do this with the "live" tracks on the "Jump In The Fire" 12"?
I'm sure i read someplace that they took "No Life 'til Leather" demo recordings and added crowd noises.
Heard those on the Whiplash twelver. They seem to be re-recordings with dubbed crowd noise rather than demos.
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Post#6 » Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:49 am

Blitzkrieg "Absolutely Live" from 2004 always makes me laugh. Sounds like they're playing a sold out Wembley or something like that.

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Post#7 » Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:22 pm

leifkr wrote:Blitzkrieg "Absolutely Live" from 2004 always makes me laugh. Sounds like they're playing a sold out Wembley or something like that.
Same goes for Destruction "Live without sense".

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Post#8 » Sat Feb 02, 2013 4:08 pm

Slayer "live undead" LP is another one & it's pretty obvious. Type of Negative "origin of the feces" cd is another.
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Post#9 » Sat Feb 02, 2013 4:40 pm

Thought they had an actual audience in the studio for Live Undead.
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Post#10 » Sat Feb 02, 2013 5:08 pm

suspected Judas Priest - Unleashed in the East too..
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Post#11 » Sat Feb 02, 2013 6:03 pm

sagrotan wrote:suspected Judas Priest - Unleashed in the East too..
Supposedly it was only the vocals that were re-recorded, due to Halford having a frog in his throat on the original recording date.
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Post#12 » Sun Feb 03, 2013 5:07 am

Ernest Thesiger wrote:
sagrotan wrote:suspected Judas Priest - Unleashed in the East too..
Supposedly it was only the vocals that were re-recorded, due to Halford having a frog in his throat on the original recording date.
booo, really? didnt know that at all

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Post#13 » Sun Feb 03, 2013 7:18 am

Ernest Thesiger wrote:
sagrotan wrote:suspected Judas Priest - Unleashed in the East too..
Supposedly it was only the vocals that were re-recorded, due to Halford having a frog in his throat on the original recording date.
Didn't know 'frog' was slang for 'cock' :wink:

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Post#14 » Sun Feb 03, 2013 3:22 pm

Ernest Thesiger wrote:Thought they had an actual audience in the studio for Live Undead.
That's what I always heard too...

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Post#15 » Mon Feb 04, 2013 3:58 am

The UK Rock press snidely referred to that Priest live album as "Unleashed In The Studio", at every opportunity they got for many years.
I think, especially in the 70s & 80s, it was common practice to "fix" mistakes on live recordings by overdubbing studio parts.
Thin Lizzy's "Live & Dangerous", is another one which isn't entirely as it "went down", as is Kiss' "Alive!"
The knowledge that these recordings have been fixed doesn't spoil my enjoyment of the albums however.
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