Are W.A.S.P. real metal or not? POLL ADDED PLACE YOUR VOTE

GJ · Post by GJ » Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:53 am

My ears tell me the Wasp debut being rather raw - definitely HEAVY METAL and also truly great stuff!

mordred · Post by **mordred** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:16 am

There's an awful lot of talk about the debut, which is a fine record in itself, but...

...have you heard The Headless Children? Or more importantly, have you who don't think of W.A.S.P. as real metal heard The Headless Children? It is W.A.S.P.'s darkest, heaviest and best album and if it ain't real metal than I don't know what is. The title song borders on epic doom metal for crying out loud!

The Erlking · Post by **The Erlking** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:32 am

mordred wrote:There's an awful lot of talk about the debut, which is a fine record in itself, but...

...have you heard The Headless Children? Or more importantly, have you who don't think of W.A.S.P. as real metal heard The Headless Children? It is W.A.S.P.'s darkest, heaviest and best album and if it ain't real metal than I don't know what is. The title song borders on epic doom metal for crying out loud!

Can't really add much to this. There's no way around it - it's HEAVY metal to the bone. And a furious testament to Blackie's ability for writing pounding, heavy yet catchy heavy metal music.

GJ · Post by GJ » Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:21 am

Loco-motive Man from Unholy Terror is one of my "recent" faves - it just klicks with me somehow.

ION BRITTON · Post by **ION BRITTON** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 4:11 pm

Honestly, if half of the 80s thrash bands had written songs with the fury and the caliber of a 'Maneater' or 'Chainsaw Charlie' I would have been a really dedicated thrash metal fan.

big mouth · Post by **big mouth** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:41 pm

Time for me to retire.... tired to beat the dead horse!

mordred · Post by **mordred** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:55 pm

Back in the day all "real metalers" considered W.A.S.P. to be posers... and Manilla Road was a joke and Anthrax were really fucking cool on their skateboards and Cirith Ungol was the worst band ever. Well, the metalheads didn't really have a clue about anything back then.

Tobiee · Post by **Tobiee** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:58 pm

mordred wrote:Back in the day all "real metalers" considered W.A.S.P. to be posers... and Manilla Road was a joke and Anthrax were really fucking cool on their skateboards and Cirith Ungol was the worst band ever. Well, the metalheads didn't really have a clue about anything back then.

Anthrax must be one of the most overrated thrashbands ever.

Avenger · Post by **Avenger** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:15 pm

Tobiee wrote:
mordred wrote:Back in the day all "real metalers" considered W.A.S.P. to be posers... and Manilla Road was a joke and Anthrax were really fucking cool on their skateboards and Cirith Ungol was the worst band ever. Well, the metalheads didn't really have a clue about anything back then.

Anthrax must be one of the most overrated thrashbands ever.

If all of Anthrax's albums were of the same quality as the debut, then I would generally hold the band in much higher regards. The band is quite average.

Black Axe · Post by **Black Axe** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:24 pm

mordred wrote:Back in the day all "real metalers" considered W.A.S.P. to be posers... and Manilla Road was a joke and Anthrax were really fucking cool on their skateboards and Cirith Ungol was the worst band ever. Well, the metalheads didn't really have a clue about anything back then.

No, those were the "generic metalers". They were "Scene people", not "listen to it and fuck, I like this, people".

big mouth wrote:Time for me to retire.... tired to beat the dead horse!

You don't beat dead horses. You bury them, put up a gravestone, and come back every night (you know the hour) to worship, reminisce and pay tribute.

PoserHolocaust · Post by **PoserHolocaust** » Tue Sep 22, 2009 1:09 am

I consider WASP's first album a heavy metal classic, but being on a major label (and probably due to the pressure of execs for them to really move records) they got pretty wimpy on the second album onwards in my opinion. By the time Headless Children came out I was beyond caring, but i'd pick it up cheap today.

The Sentinel · Post by **The Sentinel** » Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:45 am

Yes, WASP are metal: move on!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GJ · Post by GJ » Tue Sep 22, 2009 9:02 am

The Sentinel wrote:Yes, WASP are metal: move on!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You think I should pull out Kill Fuck Die for a thorough examination tonight then...

ION BRITTON · Post by **ION BRITTON** » Tue Sep 22, 2009 4:05 pm

Let's suppose they are not metal. What are they then? Hard rock? AOR? Poser? In what way does the s/t ablum sound like the first Bon Jovi or Dokken or White Lion? Do you really get a similar feeling by listening to those bands and W.A.S.P.? Is there a line that strongly connects 'Runaway' and 'Tooth and nail' with 'Hellion' or 'The torture never stops' that most people refuse to see?

MEXDefenderOfSteel · Post by **MEXDefenderOfSteel** » Tue Sep 22, 2009 10:45 pm

ION BRITTON wrote:Let's suppose they are not metal. What are they then? Hard rock? AOR? Poser? In what way does the s/t ablum sound like the first Bon Jovi or Dokken or White Lion? Do you really get a similar feeling by listening to those bands and W.A.S.P.? Is there a line that strongly connects 'Runaway' and 'Tooth and nail' with 'Hellion' or 'The torture never stops' that most people refuse to see?

exactly, actually their debut is closer to the underground US metal sound than the ones u just mentioned

Are W.A.S.P. real metal or not? POLL ADDED PLACE YOUR VOTE

Are W.A.S.P. real Metal or not?