Same Riff??? (Riff-Off)

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Not a riff, but the second half of the chorus on Dr Mastermind's "Control" has the same vocal melody as "London Dungeon" ;)
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ION BRITTON wrote:EXUMER's Fallen Saint (at 00:40 approx) rips off SLAYER's Black Magic
Yep a definite influence on the band and section of worship there. Top album.
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i remember noticing once that hunger 18 and call of kathulu have pretty much the same chords with different fretting ,guess its some sort of riff off , or at least revenge thing :D
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They are the same chords, Mustaine simply played them as arpeggios in "Hangar 18". Not really "revenge" as he is credited on the "original" too.
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One i noticed recently is:

MANILLA ROAD - The Teacher (from "Mark Of The Beast")
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxA_o3PXYRU

where the main riff is almost identical to the main riff in:

MANOWAR - Fighting The World (from "Fighting The World")
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnMFZELu7o8

except Manowar play it far slower.
Not sure if it's a true "rip-off" as the Manilla Road song, despite being recorded in 1981, wasn't officially released until 2002, so it seems unlikely that the Mano-warriors would have been aware of it when they recorded "Fighting The World" in 1987.
Unless someone knows something to the contrary.
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SOOTHSAYER - E.T., the same beginning with RUSH's Xanadu. Weird album.
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Im pretty sure Mythra was into the Scorpions, check out the beginning of U.F.O. track and then play He´s a woman-She´s a man....
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FEAR OF GOD's Running through the blood rips off MASTER's self-titled track
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Wow, that's so fucking obvious it's got to be on purpose.
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Yeah...I almost started singing On your knees for the Master... when I first heard it! They must have heard some material from Master at that time, the vocals in some other tracks remind me strongly that of Speckman.
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Ripper "Death Awaits You" in the lead break 04:53- there's a bit of the "Star Wars - The Imperial March (Darth Vader's Theme)"
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Not the same riff but the vocal melodies of the pre-chorus of ABACINATE's Drug Addiction are very similar to those of the chorus of DEICIDE's Sacrificial Suicide! DEICIDE's track (as AMON) predates ABACINATE.
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There's a strong air of DISCHARGE's Free Speech For The Dumb in the main riff of SCARAB's Fighting For The Right.
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ION BRITTON wrote:FEAR OF GOD's Running through the blood rips off MASTER's self-titled track
Cochino wrote:Wow, that's so fucking obvious it's got to be on purpose.
Got the FOAD reissue and MASTER are listed in the thanks-list.
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Master were also indebted to The Buzzcocks.

EDIT: As pointed out previously. Around & around we go...
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