Same Riff??? (Riff-Off)

ION BRITTON · Post by **ION BRITTON** » Sat Oct 02, 2010 6:45 pm

Opening riff of SALEM's (UK) Fool's gold very heavily influenced by BLACK SABBATH's Sabbath bloody Sabbath. And no, it's neither glorious nor a top-10 nwobhm track, sorry to say that, Dan.

Post by **DaN** » Sat Oct 02, 2010 7:17 pm

ION BRITTON wrote:...And no, it's neither glorious nor a top-10 nwobhm track, sorry to say that, Dan.

That's crazy-talk!
The riff is quite similar, but it's a pretty generic/simple one to begin with and the pace is different. Lots of "clones" of this one out there I'd say...

ION BRITTON · Post by **ION BRITTON** » Sat Oct 02, 2010 7:25 pm

Not saying that it's a rip-off but I'm thinking shouldn't a top-10 nwobhm track have a bit more original riffing?
I just finished the 1st CD, the 'keeper' trilogy is by far the best until now.

ION BRITTON · Post by **ION BRITTON** » Sat Oct 02, 2010 7:33 pm

To continue with the SALEM similarities: the vocal lines of Trilogy part II - The Revenge very similar to the ones of BLACK SABBATH's Children of the sea.

Post by **DaN** » Sat Oct 02, 2010 8:19 pm

Ha ha... Just found a really shameful "riff-off": the lead riff to ATLAIN's "The Sinner" is MANOWAR's "Gloves Of Metal" speeded up.

Troma · Post by **Troma** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 3:40 am

a classic:

Sacred Reich - Death Squad
Sodom - Agent Orange

Le fjump · Post by **Le fjump** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 8:15 am

I dont know if it has been posted but King diamond reused a solo backing riff from Come to the sabbath as the main riff in No presents for x-mas.

daniel · Post by **daniel** » Sun Oct 31, 2010 2:57 am

Beginning of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4cAAJ5d ... re=related

and from 0:16 of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2w-tiRnac2k

Another Truffle track 'God of War', also has similarities with Virtue's 'High Treason'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMnMv3KG ... re=related

daniel · Post by **daniel** » Sun Oct 31, 2010 2:59 am

The chorus of 'God of War' isn't a rip-off or anything like that, it just brings to mind the Messiah-'Final Warning' LP.

Cochino · Post by **Cochino** » Sun Oct 31, 2010 3:18 am

daniel wrote:Beginning of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4cAAJ5d ... re=related

and from 0:16 of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2w-tiRnac2k

Let me add
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDTKj5nXvgw

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AObVuClh ... re=related

MEXDefenderOfSteel · Post by **MEXDefenderOfSteel** » Mon Nov 01, 2010 7:10 pm

Quartz-Buried Alive "riffing off" Sabbath´s Lord of This World...cant get more obvious than that

Sgt. Kuntz · Post by **Sgt. Kuntz** » Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:58 pm

Cochino wrote:Let me add
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDTKj5nXvgw

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AObVuClh ... re=related

You are right, very obvious, but this theme from the Carpenter movie is just too good for not beeing used in a metal song.

MEXDefenderOfSteel · Post by **MEXDefenderOfSteel** » Wed Nov 03, 2010 7:57 pm

both opening riffs of Pentagram´s Relenteless and Omen´s Holy Martyr

daniel · Post by **daniel** » Fri Nov 05, 2010 12:26 am

BLACK SABBATH 'Fairies Wear Boots' the lead melody at 5:43 .:. METALLICA 'For Whom The Bell Tolls' lead melody at 1:21... Has this been mentioned before? Or am I just getting old?

Just dawned on me today hah.

great_knuthulhu · Post by **great_knuthulhu** » Sat Nov 06, 2010 6:21 pm

Never noticed that but you're spot on. The Pentagram - Omen connection seems to be more accidental. At least I would think so.