Same Riff??? (Riff-Off)

Hellride Mike · Post by **Hellride Mike** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 5:07 am

Found it, it's "The Reaper Pt. 1" from the Bleed 'Em Dry demo 1981 w/original singer Paul DeMercado.

I'd up load it but my copy is only 128 so that's not allowed, maybe someone has a better copy...

They also had the For Demonstration Only demo 1982 and a 1983 demo.

Azaras · Post by **Azaras** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:05 pm

Chafe wrote:Focus - Hocus Pocus and Blitzkrieg - Blitzkrieg

One of the riffs is practically identical.

I saw in an interview one of the old members say that Blitzkrieg song was born out of a rehearsal where they were playing "Hocus Pocus", but couldn't get the opening riff correct. So they ended up with the riff in 6/4 time (the Blitzkrieg opening we all know) and then just wrote the main song/riff to go with it.

The Erlking · Post by **The Erlking** » Sat Aug 08, 2009 7:47 pm

Don't know if it's already mentioned but Sabaton's Cliffs Of Gallipoli is 90% rip off of Savatage's Gutter Ballet. Check out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NKHju3VrSk

Avenger · Post by **Avenger** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 12:19 pm

The Erlking wrote:Don't know if it's already mentioned but Sabaton's Cliffs Of Gallipoli is 90% rip off of Savatage's Gutter Ballet. Check out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NKHju3VrSk

I can't say much about this because I've never liked anything Savatage put out after "Hall Of The Mountain King".

DMR · Post by **DMR** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 6:43 pm

Here's a weird one: Unanimated used the riff from Virgin Killer in their song Dead Calm.

Ernest Thesiger · Post by **Ernest Thesiger** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 2:24 am

Riff just before the final lead break in Mercyful Fate's "Evil" -> Survivor's "Eye of the Tiger".

The Erlking · Post by **The Erlking** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:09 am

Ernest Thesiger wrote:Riff just before the final lead break in Mercyful Fate's "Evil" -> Survivor's "Eye of the Tiger".

Haha I've noticed that too.

Zombie Dance · Post by **Zombie Dance** » Fri Aug 14, 2009 6:47 pm

Slayer "Black Magic" and Exumer "Fallen Saint" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx5FPohPpl4)
Anyway Possessed by fire is still a great lp, and they surely were influenced by Slayer.

Here maybe i'm just dreaming, but the riff from Burzum "War" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPJpfNE73fQ) sounds to me very similar to Root "Pisen Pro Satana"
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_CoktrzwJs)

And this one's a classic, and probably a tribute : Nirvana "Come as you are" and Killing joke "eighties".

DMR · Post by **DMR** » Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:02 pm

Zombie Dance wrote:Here maybe i'm just dreaming, but the riff from Burzum "War" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPJpfNE73fQ) sounds to me very similar to Root "Pisen Pro Satana"
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_CoktrzwJs)

They both sound like Bathory's Necromansy.

Blasfemer · Post by **Blasfemer** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:36 pm

Hahaha and Necromansy sounds like Curse the Gods by Destruction and so on.
In a song of Bullet for my valentine (a gay emoband) they also use the riff.

Zombie Dance · Post by **Zombie Dance** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 5:21 pm

Destruction Curse of the gods was two years after Bathory (if it's on Eternal Devastation as i think...). Anyway that's not really riffs-off, the notes a differents. Just fun because Varg and Big Boss probably didn't know them each others, i think...

MEXDefenderOfSteel · Post by **MEXDefenderOfSteel** » Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:26 am

Sabbat(jap)-Rain of terror and Agent Steel-Evil Eyes/Evil Minds

check out the openin riffs, Sabbat went to far on that one

Ernest Thesiger · Post by **Ernest Thesiger** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:34 am

Verse riff from Sabbaff's "Master of Insanity" -> Led Zep's "Wanton Song".

Melkor · Post by **Melkor** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 1:32 am

Avenger wrote:
The Erlking wrote:Don't know if it's already mentioned but Sabaton's Cliffs Of Gallipoli is 90% rip off of Savatage's Gutter Ballet. Check out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NKHju3VrSk
I can't say much about this because I've never liked anything Savatage put out after "Hall Of The Mountain King".

I just can't believe this

Im not into SABATON but this is a fucking rip off, without any doubt!

The Erlking · Post by **The Erlking** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:53 am

Yes I read quite funny things about it like

There are so many songs worldwide .... its normal, that there are places in songs or something else which sounds similar to some other.
Its the same thing with our universe..... there are so many planets, so there is life on another, too.

and

There's only so many possible different combinations of notes given that the musical scale only has 8 notes, and only so many possible different combinations of rhythms. I mean, I highly doubt Savatage patented the eighth-triplet-triplet-eighth rest-eighth-eighth pattern or the notes. With the limited notes on the scale, some things are obviously going to sound similar eventually.

Ridiculous! Yeah there are plenty of unintenional similarities between different songs in this world but THIS is the clearest ripoff I have ever heard in Heavy Metal music.