BLACK HOLE

Avenger · Post by **Avenger** » Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:22 am

Dan I sure hope for your sake that the condition of this is really M/M. I'd never bid on an auction unless getting to view pictures of the item first. Don't get me wrong, I've won items in the past without a photo in the auction, but I was always sent some privately by email first. I suppose pictures will follow if this is the real deal

Post by **DaN** » Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:40 am

The supposed M/M condition wasn't really a factor for me. If the album is beat up or the wrong color (black) I figure it's an open&shut case for a dispute. The seller's 100% rating also made a bit more confident.

Nonseinormale65 wrote:Sorry Dan,i never see it before(i only heard about the coloured lp)maybe Deluge(or della Cioppa) knows something more,i will ask

Please do. It would be great to update the old review with info about this edition, like how many were made ...or if there's even more color variations???

GJ · Post by GJ » Fri Mar 12, 2010 11:59 am

I bet someone spilt some Amarone over it, left it in the sun to dry up and forgot about it for a decent few years.

Black Axe · Post by **Black Axe** » Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:06 pm

GJ wrote:I bet someone spilt some Amarone over it, left it in the sun to dry up and forgot about it for a decent few years.

No. It's just that the cover always had a lavender colour on it and it rubbed off.

Nonseinormale65 · Post by **Nonseinormale65** » Fri Mar 12, 2010 7:04 pm

DaN wrote:The supposed M/M condition wasn't really a factor for me. If the album is beat up or the wrong color (black) I figure it's an open&shut case for a dispute. The seller's 100% rating also made a bit more confident.
Nonseinormale65 wrote:Sorry Dan,i never see it before(i only heard about the coloured lp)maybe Deluge(or della Cioppa) knows something more,i will ask
Please do. It would be great to update the old review with info about this edition, like how many were made ...or if there's even more color variations???

I wrote to Della Cioppa,let's wait and see

P.S. The circulation of the black vinyl was of 1000 copies.

Post by **DaN** » Fri Mar 12, 2010 7:30 pm

Nonseinormale65 wrote:I wrote to Della Cioppa,let's wait and see

P.S. The circulation of the black vinyl was of 1000 copies.

Great. Are you dead-sure about 1000 of the black one? I've got this vague memory of the number 2000 being mentioned. I could be confusing it with some other record I guess...

Another BH-trivia-related thing I've always wondered about: Was any of their demos ever released with a proper cover? Pix?

Nonseinormale65 · Post by **Nonseinormale65** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:14 pm

Yes,the circulation was of 1000 copies(as written by Salvo"Deluge" on Italian Metal Legion,also Della Cioppa has confirmed it).

About the colored lp there are not reliable informations(neither Measles knows about it,maybe the label made some copies without his knowledge,unless it is a bootleg made after some years...but in this case why pressing so few copies?);note that in Italy at that time there were a lot of problems between these indie labels(their expertise was limited and some labels were also rip off) and bands,distribution was poor(often some records were hard to find)and we hadn't professional magazines that dealt with HM(it happened only by the end of 1986 with Metal Shock)and to find news was hard for italian fans

P.S. about the demos i can say that the first one(1982,3 tks,midnight madman,demoniac city and mental shadows)had not a cover,the second one,Beyond The Gravestone has a cover artwork for sure(btw,Deluge will send it to you asap

).

metalmaster · Post by **metalmaster** » Tue Mar 16, 2010 7:20 am

I beat this color version is a bootleg. Back in those years colour vinyls were not much ususal in metal music, unless i was a very good selling band. Anyway, the colour of the vinyl has zero immportance if the music is crap, which is not the case with mighty Black Hole... But, it would be interesting if someone can put some light on the veracity of that color edition...

The Knell · Post by **The Knell** » Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:42 pm

as DaN has also the regular he can check/compare the matrix (matrixes). but this is way too rare for a typical bootleg counterfeit imo

Nonseinormale65 · Post by **Nonseinormale65** » Tue Mar 16, 2010 9:03 pm

Yes,i agree,maybe only five maximum ten copies were made;as i wrote maybe the label pressed them and no one knew about them...

Nonseinormale65 · Post by **Nonseinormale65** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 8:35 pm

From today the new cd reissue of Land Of Mystery is finally available in digipack only,it has some pictures of the band never seen before,it contains Angel of Lucifer and Crying Puppets as bonus tracks and it was remastered in Germany by Patrick W. Engel;worldwide distribution by Black Widow Records,you can also find it at http://www.andromedarelix.com

omen of hate · Post by **omen of hate** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 9:08 pm

Thanks for the info, I'll order it soon.

pzman · Post by **pzman** » Sun Mar 28, 2010 5:38 pm

Nonseinormale65 wrote:From today the new cd reissue of Land Of Mystery is finally available in digipack only,it has some pictures of the band never seen before,it contains Angel of Lucifer and Crying Puppets as bonus tracks and it was remastered in Germany by Patrick W. Engel;worldwide distribution by Black Widow Records,you can also find it at http://www.andromedarelix.com

so there will not be a 3 cd box set as mentioned before? But im still gonna order this one though, thx

Avenger · Post by **Avenger** » Sun Mar 28, 2010 10:19 pm

I still want the older version.

Nonseinormale65 · Post by **Nonseinormale65** » Tue Mar 30, 2010 1:16 pm

pzman wrote:
Nonseinormale65 wrote:From today the new cd reissue of Land Of Mystery is finally available in digipack only,it has some pictures of the band never seen before,it contains Angel of Lucifer and Crying Puppets as bonus tracks and it was remastered in Germany by Patrick W. Engel;worldwide distribution by Black Widow Records,you can also find it at http://www.andromedarelix.com
so there will not be a 3 cd box set as mentioned before? But im still gonna order this one though, thx

Don't worry,this one is the re-reissue of the first LP,the 3cd box set is a collection of demos and a live gig,the stuff here is totally different,let's wait for news from ADP,ok?